On December 9, the New York Libertarian and Green Parties held a joint conference to say they will sue if New York state goes ahead and makes the definition of “political party” more stringent. See this story.
UPDATE: see this New York Daily News story.
nice to see third parties working together….
My Democratic Assembly member typically provides thoughtful responses to emails I send him about local issues. I wrote to him about this issue a week ago and he hasn’t even responded.
It’s too bad that we have to go through this. I know Richard has pointed out other states -Mississippi is one, I think- where all a party has to do for recognition is stay organized.
Best of luck to this effort.
A plus for such a case is that the commission provided a rationale that was so pretextual a court should reject it.
The thresholds would also apply to federal candidates even though public funding is for state candidates.
How many HACKS in one more vast leftwing conspiracy to subvert the USA and NY Consts ???
H Clinton the EVIL mastermind person/BORG queen ???
Delays in filing election law court cases are more and more FATAL –
the SCOTUS hacks have paralyzed lower courts
more and more get-past-next-election stuff.
NY Comm law in question was enacted in Apr 2019.
Richard and Howie,
The remedy here is simple. Top Ten Plus PLAS would encourage many people to donate, volunteer and get ballot access all across the country. Once they see that it could work. That a close victory of the PLAS strategy and ticket is possible. I have pointed out Darcy Richardson/Tom-tamara Knapp as a possible PLAS fusion ticket. Howie, do you have a possible libertarian/woman for a PLAS ticket? Because I have been trying for over 10 years. Getting many a guffaw from paulie banali. Was there a meeting in Camden? Because I heard NOTHING. Are we going to conduct a poll/place holder election asap? Maybe get Secret Service protection? Remember the BTP held its online nomination in December 2011. Are we going to defend the accused Pittsburgh Synagogue Shooter, putting the terrorist state of IsraHell on trial? What are you doing Howie, other than the tried a proven old stuff guaranteed to lose- AGAIN?
If a state is going to stop letting parties nominate via primaries, then there is no reason for a state to hold a primary. Let there be only a general election using ranked choice voting, if not proportional representation. Other countries don’t hold government-funded primaries to enable parties to nominate. The U.S. didn’t either, in the 18th and 19th centuries. If someone thinks we need primaries (but doesn’t believe in using them to enable parties to nominate), that person needs to explain what good the primary is. The supporters of top-two absolutely will not do that. I have asked in person, or by other means, dozens of times, and none of them will answer the question. It seems to be part of a religious-like belief that of course we must have a primary. The idea doesn’t get any scrutiny; it is taken as an article of faith.
56 years ago today Studebaker ceased automotive assembly operations in the US. Ask Demo Rep… he’ll confirm this!
Richard,
RCV and proportional representation are nice, but problematic. Mainly not very much in place and difficult to get in place. Whereas Top Ten Plus PLAS engages the system as is.
Howie Hawkins,
I notice you are getting a lot of free publicity at IPR. Where I am banned from commenting and PLAS is on a quarantined thread. And recently a favorable comment was deleted. What do you say, here?
I confirm that CL has very serious pre-skooool moron disease – with his nonstop PUNK JUNK postings.
CL have exact date that Adam appeared in that olde book ??? —
or even the first NOT rigged election day.
Would be major factoids.
NOOO faith in ANTI-Democracy —
UNEQUAL ballot access laws,
PRIMARIES,
minority rule gerrymanders —
BUT — articles of faith in armies of STONE AGE MORON brains.
ANY MORONS still love/want divine right of kings or Mother Earth as center of universe ???
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STUDENTS OF REASON/SANITY – SEE
1ST AND 2ND TREATISES OF GOVT BY JOHN LOCKE – ABOUT 1690 [LUNACY OF DIVINE RIGHT OF KINGS]
SPIRIT OF THE LAWS – MONTESQUIEU – 1748 FRENCH ORIG – IN ENGLISH ABOUT 1760
BOTH ON INTERNET – USED IN BRIT COLONIES/USA 1761-1789 — ESP LOCKE WORDS AND PHRASES IN 4 JULY 1776 DOI.
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ONE Election Day
EQUAL NOM PETS
PR and AppV and TOTSOP
At least I know how to use the shift key!
GIVE CL THE TYPIST AWARD OF 2019 NOW — AND A PRE-SKOOOL CHRISTMAS TOY FOR BEING SO SWELL EDUCATED.
GOOD LUCK IN GETTING THE LAWLESS TYRANT DJT OUT OF OFFICE IN THE MINORITY RULE GERRYMANDER USA SENATE.
@Richard Winger,
The word “primary” is an adjective meaning ‘first’, as in primary school, primary source, primary election. A primary election is the first election.
The term primary meeting was used in a political context to refer to a first meeting held to organize a second larger meeting, Crawford County Democrats held caucuses in townships to select delegates to a county convention where nominations were made. These were primary meetings. They switched to a system where participants in the primary meeting would vote directly on nominations. The first meetings were already primary meetings. Making direct nominations at the primary meetings did not make them primary meetings.
So your question is why there should be a first election. In France, there has never been a popular election for President under the 5th Republic that has not had a second round. Second rounds are the norm for Parliament as well.
In 2018 I could vote in 95 races. It would be past absurd to expect me to rank candidates in 95 races.
In the recent Houston city elections there were 50 candidates on my ballot (58 for an average Houstonian). Again it would be an absurdity to rank all those candidates. Instead the runoff reduces the field to actual contenders, who I may choose between.
The great news is that individuals in the California the Green and Libertarian Parties have been voting on the Unity Platform USA and members from both parties (and other parties and independents) elected three items.
Without limited voting we get the two-party system and the Ogle Method is recommended for Platform item votes.
Here is an example of vote totals under the Ogle Method:
http://www.allpartysystem.com/e-aps-6-totals.php
(Note, big change in rankings totals to be announced on 1/1/2020)
By coincidence Google derived from my name when they brought “click the go” but numerals must be used under the Ogle Method.
See the names of six female Libertarian Party Presidential candidates on page below and sign up for free!
The Libertarian One 2020
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Richard,
I am glad you mentioned France because that is a foreign country that I am somewhat informed about elections.
Most notable to me is the polling. Several parties poll at single or low double digits. There is no two “major” parties that poll around 50% each (upper 40%) like in USA.
That is what I believe would happen if Top Ten were implemented in USA. 6 parties. DEm 17%, rep 17%, green 27%, lib 13%, const. 27%, reform ?%
If PLAS were implemented without Top Ten it would be about 40% PLAS, 30% dem, 30% rep..