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New York Independence Party Nominates Brock Pierce for President — 17 Comments

  1. I’m guessing the other contenders for the line were Rocky DLF, Jorgensen for another LP/IP pairing (the LP is actually qualified now), or maybe the people running the Kanye bid were aware of the idea of getting on the IPNY line.

    Guess we’ll know soonish about the outcome of the lawsuit about NYS changing their party qualification standard to make the Presidential race count. Either for parties at risk of being eliminated this year or the SAM party which doesn’t want to run a nominee.

  2. A little surprised by this pick. Figured they’d pick someone a little more active. Good for Brock though

  3. The New York Libertarian Party would have been foolish to have tried to persuade the Independence Party to nominate Jo Jorgensen. If the Independence Party had done that, then the vote for her would be split up on two separate lines. The new law requires parties to poll 130,000 votes for president, or 2%, whichever is more.

  4. 130k or 2% is gonna be a tough ask for at least 4 of the qualified parties in NY. Johnson’s IPNY line got 119k in 16, Stein got 107k. So if the current law is upheld in the courts, it’ll probably knock everybody off except the Ds/Rs/Conservatives/WFP. Short of the turnout surging enough to make 130k more obtainable.

  5. Do we know who the Oregon Progressive Party nominated for president yet? They were supposed to have held their nominating convention last night, and I know Howie Hawkins was hoping to receive the nomination.

  6. Liberty Green, according to Wikipedia it seems Howie did get the nomination of the Oregon Progressive Party. It is Wikipedia so can’t say it’s for sure but seems likely that he got it

  7. BH, if the turnout surges, that makes the requirement more difficult. It is the greater of 130,000 or 2%, not the lesser.

  8. Okay, of all the years to create a way for New York parties to qualify (or lose access) in a Presidential year, this certainly was not the ideal year for the parties to roll this out. Sometimes the grass seems greener in one’s yard, but here in Missouri, the “2% at least once qualifies for 4 years” rule seems like a reasonable balance of things.

    I was looking at Orestar a little bit ago before seeing LG’s post and Dario Hunter is apparently efforting being on the Oregon ballot as the Progressive nominee. So the Greens and Progressives marry each other with some nominees, and then might have different Presidential nominees.

    Electoral fusion (or in Oregon’s case, two parties with one box to check) sure is fun.

  9. Every election is NEW.

    EQUAL nom pets for all INDIVIDUAL candidates for same office in same area.
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    Much too difficult for SCOTUS robot party HACKS.

  10. The general trend is that 2% is higher than 130,000 in Presidential years The WFP over the last three Presidential races averaged just under 2%, so they should have no trouble making it given this will have a higher Biden vote share that Clinton got. Usually, the numbers of third party votes will remain about the same, but the higher turnout during the Presidential election is almost always directed towards the Main Parties, causing the percentage share of third party votes to decrease. For more information about why the changes were implemented, you can look at the post a few weeks ago providing the Libertarian Party and Green Party lawsuit information. in brief, Cuomo’s party, the Woman’s Equality Party, failed to re-qualify in 2016 and now he wants to strip qualification from the WFP, which has been an antagonist of his for years now.

  11. Unless Pierce is going to run ads in New York, the Independence Party would have had better odds getting to the 2% threshold if they had nominated Kanye or even Phil Collins.

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