Finally, a News Outlet Covers California Counties Failure to Include the Words “Presidential Electors” on November Ballots

UncoverDC has this article, published December 17, about the November 2020 California ballots.  In 53 of the 58 counties, the ballot did not mention the words “presidential electors” in the presidential part of the ballot.  State law says the ballots must advise the voters that they are about to cast a ballot for presidential electors.  But 53 counties did not do so.  UPDATE:  here is another story, which shows the San Joaquin County sample ballot.


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Finally, a News Outlet Covers California Counties Failure to Include the Words “Presidential Electors” on November Ballots — 28 Comments

  1. One more reason to ABOLISH the EC and ALL the ROT and confusion with it —

    esp that it is 1 of the 3 ANTI-Democracy USA minority rule gerrymander math systems.

    IE — Prezs/VPS are de facto elected by about 25-30 pct of ALL voters.
    ——–
    Uniform define USA electors/voters in ALL of the USA —
    USA Citizen, 18+ yrs olde, registered to vote by 28 days before election days.
    PR and AppV
    TOTSOP

  2. The five counties that did post the instruction on voting for electors covered under CA Elections Code sub-section 13205(b) were Alpine, Inyo, Kern, Nevada, and Santa Barbara.

    It should be noted that the five counties that did post on
    the ballots the instruction failed to post the instructions covered on CA Elections Code 13205(c). Therefore all 58 counties failed to post the instructions cover in 13205(c) of the CA Elections Code.

    A outcome of not doing these required posting on the ballot is the ballots shall not be lawfully cast or counted
    as stated in CA Elections Code 13200.

  3. Richard, just so you know there are 49 other states you can talk about. California is not the center of the universe, contrary to your belief.

  4. I see Mark Seidenberg has corrected the headline & the conclusion. Let me address the conclusion. Although it is quite true that the ballots of 53 Counties do not include the words “presidential electors” that is not what 13205 requires in subparagraph b,c, & d. It has specific quoted language which is the Legislature’s lame attempt at an explanation for each of the three different types of Elector slates.

    They put this language in quotes meaning it was not just to be included with precisely those contents, but at the top of the ballot in the voting instructions. If non-ballot qualified parties had nominated slates of Electors for President and Vice-President this time, then all three sets of explanations would have been required.

    Markham Robinson, National Chairman of the AIP, Vice Chairman of the CA AIP and Chairman of the CA AIP’s Executive Committee and the author of the document which was the basis of the article. For your convenience, the link to the detailed legal explanation of our prospective suits is the following:

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SEGWJgOr1gEV3V1yS6IXR1VoRq7Jy91Ma9JPP1TSoZI/edit

    BTW Another news outlet has picked up the story, namely the following:

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-18-california-clearly-violated-election-law-votes-invalid.html

  5. Even if the 5 Counties who did provide required language for ballot-qualified parties’ Electoral College slates plus the FWAB’s (Federal Write-in Absentee Ballots) were counted, 4% of the registered voters voting was not what the CA Legislature had in mind as an accurate reflection of the Voters’ choice of an Elector slat and hence would be grounds for decertification of the CA Electoral College slate appointments. Marham Robinson markyavelli@gmail.com 707-448-7062

  6. Don, just so you know, without CA’s 55 Electoral votes Biden has only 251 including of course the votes from the States where he fraudulently obtained their vote. If this were an honest, competently conducted legislation, Donald J. Trump would have won in a landslide just as he contends. Markham Robinson

  7. Don,

    You are forgetting DC it is not a state. At last count there are only 46 States. We also have 4 Commonwealths.

  8. Although it is quite true that the ballots of 53 Counties do not include the words “presidential electors” that is not what 13205 requires in subparagraph b, c, & d. It has specific quoted language which is the Legislature’s lame attempt at an explanation for each of the three different types of Elector slates.

  9. MS – 28 days to REQUIRE some minimal TIME connection in a precinct and to better detect any FELONS trying to vote in multiple precincts in multiple States/colonies/DC on election days.

    CA AIP folks should attack in court the CA gerrymander commission and its gerrymander districts and the resulting ANTI-Democracy minority rule in the CA legislature and CA USA Reps.

    UNEQUAL winner votes
    UNEQUAL total district votes
    1/2 or less votes x 1/2 gerrymander areas = 1/4 or less CONTROL.

    —- subversion of USA Const 4-4 RFG and 14-1 EPC

    ANY CA AIP top folks snail mail addresses NOT on the internet ???
    —–
    PR and AppV
    TOTSOP

  10. 28 days example – the 2 pending USA Senators in GA on 5 Jan 2021.
    —-
    NOOO mention of *commonwealths* in USA Const —
    esp 4-3 and Art VII.

  11. Where is the mere COURT CASE ABOUT THE 58 + 5 COUNTIES BALLOT INSTRUCTION MESS FOR PREZ ???

    I RASHLY PREDICT THAT IF BY SOME MIRACLE ALL THE COURTS RULE IN FAVOR OF TRUMP THAT THE RED DONKEY COMMUNIST CA REGIME WOULD INSTANTLY AND RETROACTIVELY REPEAL THE MESS LANGUAGE IN THE CA ELECTION CODE.

  12. Demo Rep

    I question if the 14 Amendment applies to DC as it does for the 46 States and 4 Commonwealths with the male voters over 21 years of age.

  13. MS-

    SCOTUS MORONS have invented some 14-1 Amdt EPC stuff in the 5 Amdt DP clause for the USA regime.

  14. Another article posted at Black and Blonde Media.. It is entitled “California Incompetence has nullified 12.8 million 2020 Election Votes”.

  15. The Walrus

    The article shows that ROV Melinda Dubroff of San Joaquin County claims you falsely can place two dimensional objects on one dimensional paper ballots.

    That incompetent ROV directed the San Joaquin County electors to fill in boxes to vote on the ballot. There were no box targets on the because the ballots were one dimensional. The instructions were flawed so there was no positive vote by any ballot type except the FVAP ballots in San Joaquin County, CA.

  16. It was suggest to me that I should of assigned a rectangle as a 2 dimensional object and a box as a 3 dimensional object to explain that one can not fill in with ink a box on the San Joaquin County ballot as the instruction give by that county’s ROV in selecting a target. I believe that is a far better way to express the fact there were no boxes on the San Joaquin County Ballot on November 3, 2020. Only rectangles.

  17. The November 3, 2020 ballots in San Bernardino County in the Party-Nominated Offices of President and Vice President was one of the 53 of the 58 counties in California that failed to place the required instruction on the ballot as covered by sub-section 13205(b) effective 1 January 2020 under AB623.

    It should also note that the ROV placed on the San Bernardino County ballots the name of presidential
    candidate Roque “Rocky” de la Fuentes Guerra in such a manner that the third letter “Q” of ROQUE overlapped the third letter “E” of GUERRA on the following line. Therefore making candidate ROQUE DE LA FUENTE GUERRE harder to read because of that intentional ballot flaw.

  18. The extra “s” in above comment above following “Fuente” was a typo. I got the spelling correct the second time in that comment. The name of the AI nominated candidate for POTUS was Roque “Rocky” de la Fuente Guerra.

  19. On the stated target of choice of Dean Logan the ROV for Los Angeles County for the November 3, 2020 Ballot was stated as a “circle” (sic.).

    In addition to the failure of leaving the instructions as stated in CA Elections Code section 13205 as effective on
    1 January 2020 under AB623, the 929 ballot types of Los Angeles County failed to place any “circle” targets on the ballots.

    The instruction about the circle (sic.) target was: “Fill in the circle to the left of your choice”. Again there were no circles on the ballots. There were only ovals on the ballots.

  20. Looking both at ballot types for Los Angeles and Orange Counties. It is noted that Los Angeles County gave instruction to the voters on marking the ballots and how to vote for a write-in candidate and Orange County failed to give instructions to do the same. However Los Angeles County instructions were flawed because it directed filling in circles as ballots target and no circles were on those Los Angeles County ballots.

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