On January 25, the Dominion Voting Systems company sued Rudolph Giuliani for defamation. U.S. Dominion, Inc., v Giuliani, District of Columbia U.S. District Court, 1:21cv-213. Here is the 107-page Complaint. There are also 227 exhibits.
Even if you normally don’t read legal documents, consider reading this one. There are lots of pictures of Giuliani on various television interviews.
And are they still suing Sydney Powell for the same thing? Can’t wait for the discovery on this. “Be careful what you wish for.”
Rudy Giuliani is an American hero.
I’m looking forward to Dominion winning its cases against Giuliani, Powell et al and taking them for everything they have. Hopefully they’ll sue Trump, win, and recover damages from him too.
Of course Ray/Demo Rep wants that because he likes election fraud.
Ray is not DemoRep. He is cyberpig Xaulie banali.
I doubt this will be successful.
What e-voting machine is NOT easily hacked ???
See recent 2020-2021 Russia e-acts of war on USA and state govts — including election systems ???
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/tech/2021/01/25/russian-hack-us-agencies-exposed-supply-chain-weaknesses/6699990002/
Russian hack of US agencies exposed supply chain weaknesses
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Is Russia in CONTROL of the USA N-O-W ???
A to Z — esp e-voting systems ???
SCOTUS hacks are on an everything past is MOOT binge —
today emolu cases dead, etc.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/investigation-launched-into-justice-department-coordination-with-trump-to-overturn-election-results-194458779.html
Probe begins into thwarted Justice Department ‘coup’ to keep Trump in power
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One more ***state*** conspiracy ???
Too many commie/fascist statist plots to count — much less keep current / update.
“Fact checker on January 25, 2021 at 12:20 pm said:
Ray is not DemoRep. He is cyberpig Xaulie banali.”
Is “Fact Checker” Robert Milnes?
I doubt it. Milnes probably doesn’t have the range to come up with fake characters.
Robert Milnes is a suspected Republican operative meant to make Libertarians look like crazy antisemitic masturbaters.
How many zillion fake names used by the BAN resident troll MORON so far ??? —
with its junk posts about everything – names, etc.
I read the complaint. It makes an excellent case. Giuliani and his conspirators didn’t even try to present any evidence for their barrage of claims against Dominion in any of their court cases. Those complaints were dismissed not because their evidence was found to be unpersuasive but because they simply had none. Unlike on talk shows or Twitter they could be sanctioned for lying. They knew their claims were lies so they didn’t even try to present them in court. So, Dominion is plenty ready for discovery. Now that the shoe is on the other foot it will be fun to watch Giuliani, Powell et al try to squirm out of this one, since in reality the only fraud here were their fraudulent, malicious, costly and intentional lies against Dominion.
I know rich people and companies always settle to minimize risk but also it allows them to carry on and never admit wrongdoing, but any chance Dominion goes into FU mode and takes it to trial?
They won’t settle. For one thing, they have all the facts on their side, do they have no incentive to settle. For another, any offer will be ridiculously low compared to the damage done to their reputation. They’ll get more out of the publicity of a humiliating defeat and judgement against Giuliani than they’ll be able to actually collect from him (does he actually have 1.3 billion?).
https://www.livescience.com/facts-dont-win-political-arguments.html
MERE FACTS MEAN ZERO TO FELONS / HACKS / ETC.
MAIN ***FACT*** IN USA SINCE 1776 —
ANTI-DEMOCRACY MINORITY RULE GERRYMANDER MATH –
1/2 OR LESS VOTES X 1/2 GERRYMANDER AREAS = 1/4 OR LESS CONTROL LAWS.
SPECIAL GERRYMANDER MATH IN ELECTORAL COLLEGE.
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PR AND APPV — MATH
TOTSOP – MORE MATH — 3 GOVT BRANCHES.
Quick search shows his net worth is estimated at $45 million. So, he’s rich, but nowhere close to a billionaire. Thus, the bulk of what Dominion can hope to get here is not his actual money but the publicity of winning to help repair their reputation. That just isn’t as well served by a settlement. For his part, Giuliani probably won’t want to settle, because then he can’t claim he was wronged by the courts.
If Dominion was actually guilty of what they’re accused of they wouldn’t bring this lawsuit. They’d be shaking their heads at their incredible good fortune that Giuliani, Powell and their clown show didn’t bring forth the evidence against them, and they would collect their payoff and slink away. They would be well aware of what discovery could bring up and intentionally going there would be the last thing they’d do. They’re not that stupid. The fact that they are bringing these defamation lawsuits along with the fact that the other side didn’t even try to present their alleged evidence in court should tell you everything you would want to know about who’s lying and who’s telling the truth here.
It just shows they think they can win because the courts are corrupt and ignored mountains of evidence of fraud.
They didn’t ignore anything. That mountain of bs was never presented as evidence in court because there is no evidence there that would not be laughed out of court along with sanctions for any attorneys attaching their names to it. The mountain is a mirage.
Since 1964 NY Times case SCOTUS hacks have allowed nonstop defames via 1 Amdt –
see late night talk shows esp. — defaming A to Z humans.
Good luck to Dominion- a mere biz.
https://electionlawblog.org/?p=120622
How many RED China parts in voting machines used in USA elections ???
USA/States – SUICIDE cases ??? — controlled by Enemy commie/fascist regimes ???
MORON media loving sports / movies / music / etc. until Doomsday ???
Demo Rep is correct of course, but cyberpig, I mean “Ray”, is too much of an idiot to understand.
So you think Paul faked his “retirement” and dropping out of politics, and is still trolling here? I think it is possible. The writing g style of “Ray” and some other trolls here sound like him. He apparently does not petition anymore, and has not petition much in a few years. So what does he do for a living? I doubt he has enough money saved up to not work for the rest of his life. I got a second hand report a few months ago that he was almost homeless. Could he be earning some money to live off of as a low paid internet troll?
Andy,
FYI, I do not think I ever posted or commented on the interweb under any other name.
Yes, it looks to me like paulie has dropped out of politics but is still trolling. Getting paid. Sustenance money,
unless he goes on a binge.
He has not popped up on IPR for some time.
William S. Saturn has though.
Did you try to comment on IPR since Austin Cassidy?
I was thinking about going back to IPR, but I have not done it yet. I am not sure.
They probably have a network of trolls around the world. I wonder if he gets paid by the hour, or by the post.
I doubt any of the trolls who commented after my last comment have read the complaint. The Dominion case easily meets the Sullivan test. Giuliani et al knew they were lying, and did so with malice. They claimed to have evidence which they obviously don’t have and made numerous claims of fact which were patently false. Those claims did major, easily provable harm to Dominion’s business and put their employees at risk. All of this can be easily proven in court. Contrary to ignorant claims by trolls, Sullivan did not make it impossible to prove defamation, it just made it harder. This case easily clears those hurdles.
*** state of mind *** === a FACT question — for a jury or judge, if no jury.
IE 7 Amdt also subverted by SCOTUS in 1964 NY Times case.
LAYERS and LAYERS of Conlaw subversion by SCOTUS hacks since 1789.
I guess Giuliani can try to claim he was mentally ill? But then Powell, and perhaps Trump, would have to make the same claim. They made numerous statements of fact which were false. They referred to evidence that they didn’t have. The fact that they didn’t even try to present that alleged evidence in numerous court cases shows that they knew they had nothing, yet continued to repeat their lies repeatedly in talk shows and social media. They did so over a period of months and weren’t deterred by the capitol riot their lies spawned or cease and desist letters. Any reasonable person would understand their lies would cause financial damage to the targeted company and put its employees at risk. They could claim they weren’t reasonable people but aside from what such an admission would do to their own reputations it’s also belied by their failure to present their alleged evidence in court, which shows that they were sane enough to know they were lying.
As for whether machine parts were made in China, I don’t know. It’s probably irrelevant since software source code or outside manipulation of the tabulation, not machine parts, is where you might find vote fraud if there had been any. The repeated recounts, both hand and machine, in Georgia and elsewhere show that no such manipulation happened.
There is no reason to even have electronic voting at all. All ballots should be paper ballots, and they should all be fully counted at each precinct. There is no reason to take the ballots out of the precinct before they are counted. If there are too many ballots, then there should be more precincts. The ballots should be hand counted, out loud, and in full view of the public. The entire process should be done on video and livecast online so the whole world can watch the counting. All counting should also be done in front of poll watchers, and every party or independent that is on the ballot should get to have poll watchers. There should be severe penalties if any shady stuff is pulled.
The olde precinct hand counts ended with the olde — now DEAD — punch card ballots in 1960s – with their final doom in 2000 Bush v Gore — infamous ***hanging chads***.
Local area had a primary – HOTTT HUMID day — punch card ballots [then a local option] absorbed water– folded / rolled – total chaos — many ballots were hand pressed with a steam iron as with olde clothes after washing.
Local clerk – finished.
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Paper scanners have been around since 1930s for multiple choice skooool tests.
1+1=
0
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pick one — flunk and you stay in Grade 1 forever.
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Condorcet = RCV done right.
Absentee ballots should be counted in precincts – after sig check for in person double voting.
OR — ALL absentee ballots —
Oregon etc survive since 2000.
Circa 60-70 pct of ALL ballots in Nov 2020 were absentee ballots – esp due to CV-19 ???
Giuliani may be going for that insanity defense after all. He’s quoted here as saying he’s crazy.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/seth-meyers-brutally-mocks-rudy-giulianis-billion-dollar-lawsuit
I think I see what he’s doing here, but not presenting his phony evidence in all those cases shows a presence of mind that belies his self proclamation of mental incompetence. Seen in that light the claim of lunacy is actually only further evidence that he does in fact have the presence of mind to try to gin up an excuse for his behavior here. The strategy is as obvious as the makeup running down his face in front of the landscaping company next to the porno store and funeral home.
I think that it is possible that the lawsuit is just meant to drain time and resources from the opposition fighting it. I doubt Dominion will win anything.
Lol @ cyberpig pretending he’s an attorney.
Dominion will file bankruptcy after this.
It sounds like “Ray” is repeating talking points from a script, and the reference to porn shops is very Paul like.
Ray is just stating fairly widely-known and accepted facts. He’s not the problem guy here.
Dominion won’t get $1.3B because Giuliani doesn’t have $1.3B. But Giuliani will be found at fault, unless he agrees to a settlement before trial, and based on Dominion’s other cases (e.g. American Thinker) their settlement terms will include a public groveling retraction and apology. If Giuliani takes it to court he’ll lose, the amount won’t be $1.3B but it’ll be real painful, and will include a court finding that Dominion was right and he was wrong.
I suspect even Giuliani retracting won’t convince some of you.
eeyn, who may or may not be another cyberpig sockpuppet, just posted a steaming pile of bullshit.
Eeyn nailed it. Zero falsehoods detected.
Another streaming pile of bullshit shat by likely cyberpig sockpuppet on January 26, 2021 at 6:01 pm.
Who goes bankrupt first —
USA, State X, County Y, City Z, Gu, Dom, troll moron 1, troll moron 2, etc. ???
These spammers all belong in prison. Not country club rich people’s prison either, I’m talking ass-pounding prison with tattooed gangbangers and skinheads with HIV doing life, nasty sadistic guards and lots of rats and roaches, including in the kitchen slop served to the prisoners as food.
Correction: the steaming piles were actually shit out at 5:49 and 6:03. Sorry about that.
NO FACTS – JUST TROLL POSTS ABOUT OTHER TROLL POSTS.
Demo Rep is the real troll here. He talks about eating pets and other gibberish nonsense.
Richard,
Why don’t you admit it. paulie’s obnoxious comments here is ruining BAN comments for everyone else.
Ironic. He blamed me and others for ruining IPR. He dragged IPR down also by that.
IPR banned like me came here and have managed to comment responsibly. Even Ogle. Turns out you have a commenter thast paulie probably would have banned on IPR, Demo Rep.
Smartmatic is also suing for 2.7 billion including faux news. Lou Dobbs already cancelled as a result.
Forgot link. Do a search if u don’t like the source.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/fox-news-media-cancels-highly-rated-lou-dobbs-tonight-n1256921
“Nunya” sounds like Paul.
WHEN has there YET to be an ACTUAL, REAL, FULL BLOWN COURT CASE TRIAL on ANY of the DOMINION THREATS against POWELL, WOOD or LINDELL for the Appearances & Evidences they have shared anywhere regarding the tampering of VOTE COUNTS via DOMINION MACHINES❓
I’d think THOSE CASES would be HEADLINE NEWS across the World WHEN ANY ACTUALLY take place & are Ruled on. As of NOW, it appears NOTHING as such has happened YET.
I’M betting the EVIDENCES that eventually are presented WILL DESTROY DOMINION❗👎
WHEN does this DOMINION vs. GIULIANI case go to Trial❓
What is the DATE❓❓