U.S. Supreme Court Puts Trump Pennsylvania Case on February 19 Conference

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider whether to hear Kelly v Pennsylvania, 20-810, at its February 19 conference. This is the case filed by supporters of Donald Trump, who argue that the U.S. Constitution does not permit the Pennsylvania Supreme Court to have changed some election laws relating to voting in 2020. The Pennsylvania Supreme Court eased absentee balloting because of covid. Here is the cert petition, which was filed December 11, 2020. The U.S. Supreme Court already refused to expedite this case.


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U.S. Supreme Court Puts Trump Pennsylvania Case on February 19 Conference — 64 Comments

  1. One more reason to abolish the totally corrupt minority rule gerrymander electoral college —

    infecting the legis / exec / judic branches in many States.

  2. In 2016, the Democrats were convinced that the Russians had somehow altered the votes from PA, among other key states. In 2020, the Republicans have fretted about absentee “voters” stuffing the ballot box. In both 2016 and 2020, 20 valuable electoral votes hung in the balance of a few ballots, so that, no matter who won, conspiracy theories sprang forth like weeds. Clearly, PA needs to switch to choosing electors by district, to minimize the impact of any invalid votes, from whatever source, on the overall outcome. And, PA should probably adopt ranked choice voting, too, to minimize the tears from third party spoilage.

  3. I don’t know of anyone who thought the Russians altered election results in Pennsylvania. Russian government agents did manipulate the election by spreading misinformation, allegedly in a coordinated way with the Trump campaign. However, I’ve never seen anyone allege that the actual vote count in 2016 was hacked.

  4. I seem to recall there was actually and MIT professor who did some statistical analysis of the 2016 results claiming that some of the results in the swing states were statistically improbable, and possibly caused by some type of outside agency.

  5. I recall as well that there was some technical discussion in 2016 about how results from voting machines might or might not have been hacked. Whether or not this is possible, I don’t have the expertise to know, but I do know there has been talk, both in 2016 and 2020, by both Democrats and Republicans (usually whichever is the loser) about how machines can be hacked. The key point is that in a close election in a state where many electoral votes are decided by a small margin, there are always conspiracy theories hatched by the losing side.

  6. What’s not a conspiracy theory is that you’re a neocon who supported Evan McMullin.

  7. There may have been someone here or there speculating that the 2016 vote was miscounted but that wasn’t the mainstream discussion around Russian interference charges. Also, one of the minor party candidates paid for a recount in one of the 2016 battleground states, I think Wisconsin. There was no indication of fraud there, just as there was none in Georgia in 2020.

  8. I see in the Orders from 1/25 that 20-542 (Republican Party of Pennsylvania v Boockvar, et al) was not in the list of cert denials. It was supposed to be up for conference on 1/22, after being pushed forward several times. The case status at scotusblog does not show it getting pushed to the 29th, though.

    Any idea what is going on there?

  9. Any takers this hearing won’t last 15 mins? 20 bucks says they throw this out like all the others (no evidence discussed). That way MSM can keep up with their Narrative another case dismissed “lack of evidence”…

  10. The “msm narrative” is accurate. The long list of cases dismissed for lack of evidence did not have any evidence to speak of introduced. If the court were to hear the case it would review it for a lot more than 15 minutes and constitutional principles, not evidence, would be at issue. More likely is no hearing at all and a declination to take the case.

  11. SCOTUS can’t apply the law to this case since it is part of Stop the Steal which is a terrorist statement.

  12. SCOTUS is strange position as by NOT taking the case they become complicit in coup attempt as they are them labeled dysfunctional and corrupt (which they are). If they do take the case and hear the evidence they can only decide one way, FOR TRUMP, this will piss off the liberals and cause them to exert pressure and possibly release the blackmail evidence they have on the Justices… Sorta of a catch 22.

  13. @ Ray:

    It doesn’t matter whether or not anyone can prove fraud in the election returns. What matters is the PERCEPTION of fraud. And that perception is greatly magnified when a large number of electoral votes is decided by a handful of ballots.

  14. AND, getting rid of the electoral college, either thru amendment, or by adoption of the National Popular Vote Compact, would increase the perception of fraud EXPONENTIALLY in a close election.

  15. AND, as we saw, all it took was the PERCEPTION of fraud to get a mob to storm the Capitol.

  16. I am not so sure that that it was just a perception of fraud, as it looked like it was probably a reality of fraud to me.

    People had every right to go out and protest, and as for the so called “insurrection” at the Capitol;

    1) it is pretty obvious that it was a manipulated event, as video clearly shows that the Capitol police actually LET people walk inside the Capitol building, plus it has been verified that there were ANTIFA members (and like federal COINTELPRO agents) posing as Trump supporters in the crowd acting as provocateurs,

    2) little damage was done, and out of what little damage that was done, most, or maybe even all, of it was done by ANTIFA posers/COINTELPRO operatives,

    3) the canned and hypocritical reaction of the mainstream news media, especially given their “kid gloves” approach to ANTIFA and BLM rioting and looting in multiple cities, which causes far more damage, and, sadly, which was even more disgusting to me was the lame press less put out by LP National about this, which parroted leftist mainstream media talking points,

    4) the fact that politicians like US House Rep Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (aka-AOC), have been caught in BLATANT LIES about the event, as AOC claimed she was there, and got threatened, and it turned out she was not even really there,

    and,

    5) this is a country which was FOUNDED on an insurrection, and in fact, Thomas Jefferson write in the Declaration of Independence that the only purpose of government is to protect life, liberty, and property, and that if government becomes destructive to those ends, that after a long train if abuses, that the people have a “right and duty to alter or abolish” that government, and there is another quote from Jefferson where he said that governments need to be reminded that the people have the spirit of resistance, and that, “the tree of liberty needs to be refreshed from time it time with the blood of patriots and tyrants,” so I find the bedwetting, bootlicking, cowardly responses by some people, including LP national unfortunately, to this obvious staged/manipulated event which was been blown way out of proportion, to people protesting over evidence that election fraud to place, to be nauseating.

  17. @Andy:

    To my knowledge, no protester who entered the Capitol could actually cite any tangible iota of evident of fraud, YET, they all KNEW that it happened. That’s PERCEPTION, and, as we saw, it can be consequential.

  18. Whether it was just PERCEPTION or not is your opinion.

    Having said this, it is a FACT that poll watchers were told to leave, and thar more ballots were counted OUTSIDE THE VUEW of poll watchers, and there was a video that surfaced from Georgia clearly showing poll workers pulling out a large case of ballots and counting them AFTER THE POLL WATCHERS HAD BEEN TOLD TO LEAVE. That was very shady.

    Even if the truth turns out tone that Joe Biden won fair and square, which I doubt, two facts remain:

    1) people still has a right to protest,

    and,

    2) some may consider what I say now to be a more controversial statement, but it should not be, in my opinion, and that is that Kamala Harris should NOT be regarded as a Natural Born American Citizen, because although she was born in the US State of California, neither of her parents were citizens at the time she was born, so, under the original, and correct, interpretation of Natural Born Citizen, she is NOT legally qualified to hold the office of Vice President, or President, and, since the laws require the presidential candidate to run as a ticket with a vice presidential ticket, the ticket of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris was not a legitimate ticket, and their names should have been removed from every ballot, and all of the votes they received should have been thrown out.

  19. No Supreme Court, state or federal, has the authority to CHANGE state laws. They can strike them down, but they CANNOT alter them to allow something different.
    It is well past time for ALL on the SCOTUS to follow the CONSTITUTION, as Justice Thomas and Justice Alito so correctly urged their associates to do.

  20. I seen the video from Mike Lindell of the election fraud it is clear as day that this was stolen from Trump.And I feel all these crooks should be held accountable.

  21. It’s easy to be convinced by social media, videos, talk shows etc especially if you limit your information sources to a one sided information bubble/echo chamber. What I’d like to know is why wasn’t all this supposedly damning evidence introduced in dozens of court cases brought by Trump fan/grand election fraud conspiracy theorists? Before you say that biased courts rejected the evidence consider that the plaintiffs attorneys never even tried to introduce it. Please explain why you think that was.

    Voting machines companies like Dominion and Smartmatic are suing Giuliani, Powell, Dobbs, Pirro, Bartiromo, Fox News etc for billions, with more lawsuits possibly coming against e.g. OAN, Newsmax and perhaps Trump and or his family members. Why would they want to risk discovery if they are guilty of these crimes? If the evidence is incriminating they can be criminally charged. And again if the evidence is incriminating why was it not introduced in dozens of cases where some of the voting machine lawsuit defendants and others were the plaintiffs?

    Do you really believe that all the Trump appointed judges, Republican prosecutors, Republican governors and Republican election officials in these cases are part of the Democratic Party conspiracy? Do you believe that the voting machine companies feel comfortable that not only career federal but even Republican partisan DAs and prosecutors in multiple states won’t bring criminal charges against them if they are forced to produce incriminating evidence in discovery, or that the defendants won’t countersue them and win?

  22. While you are at it maybe explain why Fox has fired Dobbs and run segments debunking claims made by its own talk stars under threat of lawsuit? It seems they must be worried about being held liable, doesn’t it?

  23. Corrupt judges claimed that there was no standing, which was ridiculous in my opinion, because every American citizen should have legal standing when it comes to election integrity in the presidential race.

  24. It is not about Democrat vs Republican. It is about the ruling establishment getting what they want, and the ruling establishment controls BOTH of these parties. They are like a two headed dragon. The ruling establishment wanted inner circle Biden over outer circle Trump, and most Republicans will go along with what the ruling establishment wants over loyalty to their own party or what is right. They are Republicrats or Demoblicans.

  25. There were dozens of cases that were in fact found to have standing, in multiple states, where the opportunity to introduce all the alleged evidence of massive vote fraud existed, and it wasn’t introduced. Why not?

  26. I keep seeing people on here ask the question “if there was so much evidence, why wasn’t it presented to a court?” And “Since Trump appointed so many of these judges, it goes to show that they had no evidence worthwhile!”
    To answer these simple statements, for one, the majority of all the court cases filed were dismissed on some procedural nonsense before evidence ever saw the light of day! Two, judges are ex-lawyers, and not Trump cronies, so your assumption that the evidence was so weak that even trump appointed judges couldn’t go along with it is just blatantly ignorant. Judges are typically have a god complex which leads them to make decisions within this magnitude as such, which means they’ll make decisions based on what’s good for the country, and not what’s actually legally correct at the time. There was an active threat from left wing radicals that had burned cities across this country over the past year, and that threat was escalated even more so had things not gone their way. This was stated over and over in social media, and the reaction of all liberal, rhino type, and “career politicians” was that they’d rather not investigate what would be the largest scandal to ever happen in US history! They took the easy, less dangerous way out because they knew conservatives lived up to their name, and would not burn, loot, and assault their way through this country to get what they wanted! The left took the capitol orchestration and made it out to be a complete lie to satisfy their agenda. Between the gutless corrupt politicians in both parties, the MSM, the Fox News liberal takeover, the judges legislating from the bench, and the radical terrorists of antifa and BLM, this election fraud was perfectly orchestrated over the last four years! The evidence is overwhelming and concrete, yet the people on the left will accept these crimes just because of their utter hatred for one man, and that is beyond disheartening and pathetic, it shows that a good portion of this country is totally willing to break the law when it suits their own desires, and they justify criminality when needed! These are the tenets of socialism/Marxism/communism. When these corrupt politicians finally transform our free republic into the communist land they desire, all these complicit liberal citizens will ultimately realize what they’ve done, and either claim to be victims, or deny involvement. Either way I don’t see our country as we’ve known it ever coming back from this, and it is a travesty beyond anything we’ve seen in our lifetimes! It is too bad most of the veterans of WWII are dead and gone, because they wouldn’t have ever stood for this kind of treasonous action in our country! This is what happens when you have the hippies of yesteryear become the leaders of government and the judges of the courts! This is what happens when the rich business moguls value money from China which started flowing in the 1970’s more than they do the continuity of our republic! We are going into a very dark time for this country, and sadly it will never regain what it was without those who made this happen to pay the price for their criminal actions! The press is protected in our first amendment for a very good reason, because without an honest press who are bound by an unbreakable code of ethics no matter what their personal opinions may be, or where their political loyalties lay, the people cannot get the facts they need to make good decisions that drive our country. The mainstream media has steamrolled over a cliff of deceit that has ruined the trust Americans have for them forever more. Without a complete removal of all current journalists, how can anything they say be taken seriously?!? Isn’t it sad that we hold them to a higher standard than we do our own politicians? We know how congress rates on the favorability scale over the past couple of decades, and it is abysmal! How can we as a country survive when the very people we elect to represent and do the will of the people don’t do exactly that?!? I could write a book here, and that in itself is pathetic in the beacon of freedom in this world! This is not an us against them problem to those on the left who cannot seem to get past their own “resist” oaths you all took the day Trump took office! You’ve played directly into the hands of the criminal politicians of this country from both sides of the isle, because they are one in the same! Until you decide that you have to hold your own leaders to a higher standard, we will continue down this short road to nationalized government control, censorship, secret meetings behind closed doors, and people making decisions that will detrimentally effect our families for many years to come! You need to be very afraid….

  27. Some of the lawsuits were dismissed for procedural reasons, but not all. There were still dozens of lawsuits where the opportunity to present evidence for the claims made by people like Mike Lindell existed even after we discount the the ones thrown out for procedural reasons. The lawyers bringing those cases such as Giuliani and Powell echoed Lindell’s claims on social media and talk shows and in press conferences. But when they had numerous opportunities to present the alleged evidence in court in several different states they didn’t. Why not? And why are Dominion and Smartmatic suing them now? If they had something to fear from discovery or countersuits wouldn’t it be smarter for them to stay quiet?

  28. The problem with this entire action is Giuliani being in charge. He was an awesome mayor of NY city, but that was many years ago, and the technical nature of the evidence was too difficult for him to grasp, and he ruined the execution. It’s amazing how one person can ruin an entire plan of execution with great concrete evidence! That is a very sad part of our society that a personality can have a detrimental effect on concrete facts, but it happens, especially when you have thousands of die hard liberal journalists with massive platforms, liberal and so called conservative politicians, and the prior beacon of conservative news (Fox News) working against you 24 hours a day! The reason dominion is suing is the same reason most people sue, because they can, and considering the pathetic judges they’ll probably win! The actual voting system that is bad is owned by dominion, but it goes by a different name, so dominion is suing based on the fact that they kept disparaging the dominion name, and not the proper one that caused all of the problems. It’s total BS and shouldn’t make a difference considering the magnitude of fraud, but we live in a different reality than lawyers and judges do. Still, all of this boils down to the total ineptness of Giuliani and his inability to present a coherent case. If we had honest judges, they would have looked past his failings and found the evidence that was massive in nature, but sadly we don’t have normal joe’s judging court cases out there. Instead we have biased op-ed type judges out there looking for any reason whatsoever to throw anything Trump related out.

  29. Dominion is suing and so is Smartmatic which is the conspiracy theory you cite about going by another name. It’s not owned by Dominion. They are competitors. Read Dominion’s brief for details. Both companies are open to discovery as a result of these lawsuits. If anything criminal emerges in discovery they can be criminally liable. So given that why do you think they’re suing? Judges can only rule on the evidence they are presented. Giuliani wasn’t the only lawyer on his side and they repeatedly did not introduce the alleged evidence you allude to here and which they and others kept alluding to on social media, talk shows etc.

  30. They are likely suing in order to save face, and tie the opposition up in court, in order to waste the opposition’s time and money, and to create a distraction. It would not surprise me if nothing comes of this case.

    Also, I do not trust Trump’s legal counsel. Rudy Giuliani was a part of the 9/11 cover up. He may pretend to help, only to stab his client in the back.

  31. There were multiple attorneys involved, not just Giuliani. And the Dominion and Smartmatic lawsuits are not just an opportunity for the plaintiffs to try to save face or win money or tie up their opposition. They are also an opportunity for the defendants – multiple defendants, including attorneys, not just Giuliani, and all *their* attorneys – to use the discovery process to find any wrongdoing by Dominion and or Smartmatic. Why would Dominion and Smartmatic subject themselves to that if they are guilty of anything? They could be criminally liable if any criminal wrongdoing is uncovered. Furthermore, these lawsuits present yet more opportunities for the defense attorneys to present the alleged evidence of massive election fraud that they failed to introduce in the previous lawsuits as defense evidence (their clients can’t be guilty of libel if they told the truth). You think they’ll present it this time? Check in in a few months, or years, and let’s revisit that.

  32. It appears that Andy can’t answer logically, so must resort to logical fallacies such as ad hominem and calling me a “troll.” I’ve asked legitimate questions (which lots of people have asked in many other places) respectfully and without rancor. It’s unfortunate that some here have allowed the weakness of their case as evidenced by their inability to answer logically to lead them to try to deflect from the conversation. If Andy can’t answer my polite queries logically, perhaps Kevin or someone else can?

  33. It’s a common variation of the name of about 11 million people in the USA alone, and millions more in other countries. It’s also completely beside the point of the questions I’ve asked. Can you answer them or not? If not, you would be better off moving on and allowing someone else to answer them, if they can. Your attempts to deflect from the argument don’t bolster your case, or lack thereof.

  34. It is not besides any points. Thissite has been plagued with trolls fora long time. Prove to us that you are who you say you are. Come out from hiding.

  35. If you wish, you can feel free to demonstrate how any of the easily verifiable facts or simple logical questions I’ve asked constitute anything like trolling or depend in any way on what my name is or what you think it may be. Until then you only continue to demonstrate your inability to answer questions and facts logically and the weakness of your case. You can prove me wrong by stopping the irrelevant deflection and addressing the actual substantive questions. If you can’t, you may continue the deflection or let someone else answer. Come out from hiding behind your attempt to derail the conversation, if you can.

  36. The United States Supreme Court has basically legalized voter fraud, destroyed American’s faith in free and fair elections and put America in a dangerous position with Biden as our fake president. How could they be so negligent of their duties, careless and reckless with the law and deny the American people and Trump the due process we deserve. How could they not hear and see the evidence that the world has seen and history will write and talk about? How could they say they care about the constitution and then not follow it? I can see our own institutions are failing us and states are deciding they may have to leave. Unfortunately, I am in Democrat state, but I applaud those states that want to protect and save themselves from the hate and bad policies of the Democrat party. They should walk away from this “imperfect union” of no justice, protection and liberty. They are responsible for the bad condition our country is going through and the deadly path that it’s on. Lives will be destroyed and lost. American will never be the same and this is because Amy, Brett and Gorsuch were too afraid to stand up for the American people and the constitution. Sad because that is exactly what they are hired to do. Americans are angry, sad and hopeless. I don’t know how much longer they will accept the double standard. If no one is above the law, how is it that Democrats who constantly lie, break the laws and collude with our foreign enemies NEVER are held accountable or removed from office??!! We are on a path of no return if brave, good constitutional people don’t stand up for fairness and justice. We need real judges and not judges in name only. We need to save our country and hold the criminals accountable. Voter fraud is everywhere and should not just be accepted this one time! How sick is that? NO. This wrong needs to be made right. If only the justices wanted justice, we could have the president that Americans voted for. Not the man China, Iran and corrupt liberals want to force in. Biden needs to peacefully and patriotically pack his bags and go back home.

  37. The United States Supreme Court has basically legalized voter fraud, destroyed Americans faith in free and fair elections and put America in a dangerous position with Biden as our fake president. How could they be so negligent of their duties, careless and reckless with the law and deny the American people and Trump the due process we deserve. How could they not hear and see the evidence that the world has seen and history will write and talk about? How could they say they care about the constitution and then not follow it? I can see our own institutions are failing us and states are deciding they may have to leave. Unfortunately, I am in Democrat state, but I applaud those states that want to protect and save themselves from the hate and bad policies of the Democrat party. They should walk away from this “imperfect union” of no justice, protection and liberty. Amy, Brett and Gorsuch were too afraid to stand up for the American people and our constitution. Sad because that is exactly what they are hired to do. Americans are angry, sad and feeling confused and hopeless. I don’t know how much longer they will accept the double standard. If no one is above the law, how is it that Democrats who constantly lie, break the laws and collude with our foreign enemies NEVER are held accountable or removed from office??!! We are on a path of no return if brave, good constitutional people don’t stand up for fairness and justice. We need real judges and not judges in name only. We need to save our country and hold the criminals accountable. Voter fraud is everywhere and should not just be accepted this one time! Trump and 75 million Americans shouldn’t be asked to just move on!!! How sick is that! NO. This wrong needs to be made right. If only the justices wanted justice, we could have the president that Americans actually voted for. Not the man China, Iran and corrupt liberals want to force in. Biden needs to peacefully and patriotically pack his bags and go back home. Justice must be served.

  38. What evidence were they or any lower court of law presented with that they failed to see? Please refer to the court records and be specific.

  39. Scotusblog has now been updated to show that 20-542 (Republican Party of Pennsylvania v Boockvar, et al) is also up on 2/19.

    I think this could be the most interesting case of all. If they take it (and 3 Justices have already indicated they want to do so) then an opinion that the PA Supreme Court ruled in violation of the US Constitution seems likely. The remedy, however, seems impossible.

  40. They may or may not take it. If they do take it and rule against the PA court it will set future precedent but yeah, there won’t be any election do over or any other trumpsucker wet dream.

  41. The best thing that could happen, although it won’t, would be if they did order an election do over. Biden would beat Trump. Again. By an even bigger popular vote margin, and quite likely by more electoral votes as well. It wasn’t because of fraud the first time, and wouldn’t be thus time, either. Democrats would certainly make gains downballot, probably gaining rather than losing seats in the US House and getting an actual majority rather than a mere tiebreaker in the US Senate. They would probably win control of a few more state legislatures and governorships and help their redistricting prospects, too. So I’ll share the Trump fan’s sadness that it won’t happen, albeit less delusional.

  42. Regardless of the outcome, the conduct of the 2020 elections was farcical. Governors and legislatures of both parties took advantage of coronavirus fears to open new doors of opportunity for exceeding their authority, and courts (like PA) doing the same. States and municipalities accepted huge private-money grants for election reform that resulted in voting access being steered demographically. Local and state level voting authorities dispensed with established and common-sense election integrity and security rules. Most of this was done in the name of “COVID-19 safety”, but unnecessary and out of line with what even CDC/WHO advocate.

    In my state (Texas) the (GOP) Governor illegally (per a federal judge) lengthened the time window for early voting, then got roundly chastised by the beneficiaries for insisting the number and monitoring of drop-off locations be kept within the state law. It was all just absolute lunacy. I would love to see the entire country go back to paper ballots, hand counted with backup counters, no mail-in ballots except for medical shuts-ins and those early enough for proper verification. 2000’s hanging chads were a cakewalk compared to the 2020 mess.

  43. We had more than enough voter fraud evidence without Biden’s confession. This is an open and shut case but no court will open up and fix this travesty!! Shame on the U.S. Supreme Court!!!!! The three stooges on the court claim to love the law, fight for justice and abide by the constitution, but they forgot to tell us not when they’re under pressure or being bullied by Justice Roberts!!! They have failed themselves, America and the American people. They have exposed themselves and will be remember for the people that could have fixed this wrong and save our democracy. Instead they will be remembered as negligent, ignorant, ungrateful and anti-American. They have basically legalized fraud in our elections, allowed a corrupt, communist, terrorist president to destroy our country and so many lives, and ignore due process for the best president in American history and over 75 million Americans! How sick is that?!!! After everything Trump has done for them. They will be remembered for taking sides, because but not allowing the U.S law and the U.S. constitution to resolve this national dispute they decided to play “see no evil, hear no evil.” And that’s evil.

  44. I was promised as a voter in Michigan that my votes would count. The state’s website promoted that each vote to be handled would be overseen by a member of both political parties; the observation would be open and honest. Yet that was clearly not the case in Wayne County (Detroit) where agitators bullied observers, votes were dropped late night while counting paused, and machinery connected to the Internet made multiple counts which appear to be weighted towards one candidate. I feel lied to. Also the Certified confirmation vote was changed from one of no confidence with the understanding that a complete forensic audit would be completed by our Secretary of State. This never happened.

    When will we know the results of the SCOTUS conference today, February 19, 2021?

  45. http://www.michealjlindell.com and the actual transcript of President Trump’s January 6, 2021 speech for the compilation of election interference and foreign entanglement.

    I traveled 12-hours on a cramped bus overnight to protest in DC on January 6, 2021. I felt compelled to be there – my vote matters, Michigan.

  46. So why wasn’t all this alleged proof introduced in dozens of court cases where the opportunity to introduce it existed? I’m sure one of you has the answer. You have more opportunities to introduce it now that Giuliani and Lindell at all are the ones being sued. Discovery and truth as defense against defamation both present chances to introduce it. Let’s see if that happens. Also still unanswered is why alleged conspirators would present you with these additional opportunities if the failure to introduce this evidence was due to attorney error on your side in all the previous cases as was claimed by some above.

  47. The results of the US Supreme Court conference of Friday, Feb. 19, will mostly be known Monday morning, Feb. 22.

  48. Fact checker is a false name as well as a false description. My name, or whateve you (incorrectly, but more importantly irrelevantly) think it is, is not relevant to whether you can answer my questions or not. Can you answer them? If not, can someone else here answer them? I’ve made no claim of authority that rests on who I am. Many people have asked the same questions I have. So either you can answer them competently or you can’t. Hiding behind your guessing games about my supposed identity won’t deflect from your inability to answer simple questions about the actual subject being discussed logically. It’s also ironic that someone who is themselves anonymous would even try to make that play, but I don’t care who you are either, so you can be as anonymous and hypocritical as you wish. The only thing that matters here is whether you can answer the questions logically and make a good case. Can you?

  49. Don’t forget all of the mail in ballots that got counted that did NOT come with envelopes with the signatures of the voters on them which SHOULD HAVE been disqualified, but were not.

  50. Cert denied. We may now reasonable hold the SCOTUS complicit in the inevitable election shenanigans that ensue in upcoming cycles, when bodies other than those Constitutionally-prescribed change election law.

    This wasn’t just about Donald Trump and Joseph Biden. As Justice Thomas pointed out in his dissenting opinion, we had other cases, including cases where the margin of separation between candidates compared to the amount of challenged votes was more than enough to change the election. When one candidate is clearly victorious under the legislature’s rules, and a different candidate is clearly victorious under the court’s rules, and the court’s candidate is seated in the face of the obvious and serious question of usurping of constitutional authority, then how can the SCOTUS *not* get involved.

    I am especially shocked that Justice Barrett voted to kick this land mine down the road.

    SCOTUS has shirked their responsibility again. Boo! Hiss! Disgust!

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