On August 25, Markham Robinson, acting chair of the American Independent Party, died of an illness. He had been in the leadership of the party ever since 2008. He lived in Vacaville, California.
On August 25, Markham Robinson, acting chair of the American Independent Party, died of an illness. He had been in the leadership of the party ever since 2008. He lived in Vacaville, California.
Baruch atah Hashem Elokeinu Melech haolam, Dayan ha’emet.
Take your SATANIC jew bullshit somewhere else.
There are hardly words to describe what a monster Robinson was. He was part of a team which filed fake documents with the state to seize control of the AIP. He was a liar and a betraying backstabber of our nation and the conservative movement. The sun is shining brighter and the birds are singing now that he is dead. The world is a better place with his too long delayed death. He was a true demon.
(((Mark Seidenberg)))
For whatever reason the story of his death has bern currently removed from Independent Political Report where I first saw it. I reiterate that it is hard to express what an incalculably evil monstrous demon he was. I have only partially described his evil at TheCorruptionOfAlanKeyes.blogspot.com. Under whatever his totally fake surface appearance was he was a backstabbing traitor and a true demonic Enemy of Humanity. Burning in hell for eternity is richly deserved for him but too good for what he truly deserves. He polluted/poisoned the earth while he existed and will now pollute hell for eternity. His soul stink will be enough to drive his fellow demons to drink. He will burn but still be at home with his fellow demons; his real friends. He was a true enemy of our Republic. You could trust Nancy Pelosi far more than this horrific rat. His legacy will be as one of the most evil people in the history of politics in our nation. Perhaps obscure but a true monstrous demon who was happy to do incalculable damage to our nation so that his horrific ego could be glorified. His vanity was endless and unquenchable. He would, and did, sacrifice anything and anyone for his own never ending glorification.
The hijacking of the American Independent Party of California was pretty dirty. The party has been run into the ground since then. It’s a big joke. It’s a big empty shell.
Wasn’t this the guy that claimed to have a video of Chelene Nightingale having sex with a horse?
I believe so, yes. He also linked to some “plumpers” website he claimed featured Nightingale.
Chelene Nightingale was the last person to do anything of significance in the American Independent Party of California, and that was 11 years ago.
I have to wonder if the hijacking and running into the ground of the American Independent Party of California was part of an operation to take out or neutralize anyone who could potentially become a threat to the ruling establishment. This could have been carried out by federal agents (FBI or CIA or etc…), and/or operatives from the Republican Party, and/or Israeli Mossad/ADL/SPLC operatives.
The satanic khazars are behind all the world’s problems. They can’t state White Christian Gentile patriots like Don Grundmann and Chelene Nightingale. They’re bringing in the the third world filth and trying to genocide us. It’s time to take the holohoax and finally make it real!
Should read they can’t stand.
I think Robinson was, and seidenberg is, agents of JIDF.
I don’t believe this alleged video of Chelene and the horse even exists at all. I’ve certainly never seen it, and the horse denies all knowledge.
Are you saying that the horse said neigh?
The AIP registration in California the last time I checked was 710,259. That was because of the good work of the
late Markham Robinson. We will all miss him.
You and who else will miss him, shitberg? 700,000 people were lazy/stupid and marked the wrong box due to an intentionally deceptive party name. California should pass a bill to not allow political parties to use American or independent as part of their name, and that would solve 99% of the problem.
LOL @ Mark Seidenberg’s comment on AIP’s voter registration number! What he does not tell you is at at least 95% of those people registered under their party’s banner do not know that it is a political party, or what it stands for, and that the party barely does anything, and that it has done nothing of relevance in 11 years.
I wonder how much he gats paid to sabotage the AIP by the FBI or CIA or Republican Party or Israeli Mossad or the ADL or the SPLC.
Shitbird has swallowed more seamen than Moby Dick.
Shitenberg is a Zionist piece of shit.
Marx Shittenberg is a circumcised abomination.
(((Marx Shittenberg)))
A) The entire purpose of the Robinson/Seidenberg Deep State attack on the AIP was to destroy the Constitution Party which was a potential threat to the GOP, most especially the RINOS. The non-committal George Washington foreign policy of the CP was in direct opposition to the pro-Zionist/Israel policy of the Deep State controllers/handlers of the moles Robinson and Seidenberg. The plan was for Alan Zionist Keyes to get the Presidential nomination and when that failed they immediately went to ” Plan B ” – filing fake documents with the Secretary of State office to seize control of the AIP so as to break it from the CP. With a corrupt court that was successful. Running no candidates since their attack looks like failure but it is actually success to The Demons. Killing the party is exactly what they wanted to do. It was their assigned mission.
B) Seidenberg is the same as Robinson and more so. Every atom of his body is dedicated to evil. Another walking Demon. He will soon ( but not soon enough ) join his pal Robinson in hell for eternity. They can comfort each other as they eternally burn.
Robinson and Seidenberg smeared Chelene with the sex with animals attack. Seidenberg went ahead of her on the campaign trail and seeded her destinations with lies about her before she arrived. They were monstrous liars. I have never heard of another instance, anywhere, where such monstrous lies/attacks have been made against a candidate as when they attacked Chelene. It is a perfect illustration of what monstrous and horrific demons they are and in fact only touches a fraction of their evil.
“Robinson and Seidenberg smeared Chelene with the sex with animals attack. Seidenberg went ahead of her on the campaign trail and seeded her destinations with lies about her before she arrived. They were monstrous liars.”
Wow. that’s really dirty. This is the first I am finding out about this. Chelene Nightengale was the last person in the American Independent Party to actually run a campaign of any prominence. Chelene was a heck of an activist. If Seidenberg and Robinson really did what you are saying they did here this makes puts their character even lower than I thought it was, and I already that it was pretty low. Like I said above, these guys are probably on some payroll, I’d guess either FBI, CIA, Republican Party, Mossad, ADL, or SPLC, or maybe something else, but whatever the case may be, the behavior your described is that of a saboteur.
Warning! The last day that Dr. Don Grundmann was an officer of the American Independent Party of California was on 2 September 2008. After that date he had no connection to that party. Ed Noonan the State Chairman removed Dr. Grundmann of all regional and county office of AIP before that date.
Mark Seidenberg, does this invalidate anything Don Grundmann said here? I doubt it.
Noonan, a Mormon, hated Chuck Baldwin and felt that the CP was not Mormon enough and even anti-Mormon. He was stupid enough to join the Deep State moles Robinson and Seidenberg in betraying/back stabbing Bill Shearer who trusted him and made him Chairman.
Look, the horse said it neighver happened, and that’s good enough for me!
I also don’t believe the rumors that it was actually a donkey show in Tijuana.
Edward Noonan was elected on his own. “Bill Shearer” did not appoint either Noonan or I to the office of Chairman or Vice Chairman of the AIP in 2006. We were both elected in Sacramento County as required by the CA Election Code.
Dr. Don Grundmann in above post lies by stating that “Robinson and Seidenberg smeared Chelene with the sex with animals attack.” Then Andy starts posting about Chelene Nighengale. First I have no idea what Chelene Dr. Don Grundmann is making reference to in his above post.
I never “smeared“ anyone on anything. Known Markham
Robinson I do not believe he would do that either.
Buggery is a crime. I have no idea who “Mr. Libertarian” is, yet he was the person in this chain that stated first that there was a video of “sex with a horse” an Markham Robinson claimed he had one.
Markham Robinson was a gentleman, he would never possess videos of acts of buggery on them.
But you appointed yourselves supreme shitbags Marx Shittenberg
LOL yeah right shittenbird. You have no video, you just spread false rumors about Ms Nightingale.
Why don’t you set yourself on fire at the funeral, that would be the honorable thing to do?
I did not have sexual relations with that woman Chelene NIghtingale
Mr. Ed,
You failed to post you died 51 years ago and was a gilding named “Bamboo Harvester”
That was a different Mr. Ed, shitbird.
Buggery is anal sex. Is Shitberg saying the horse penetrated Nightingale anally? How does he know?
Maybe he’s just trying to falsely insinuate he watched this alleged video.
I don’t know about any horse or donkey video but the plumpers images are archived and can be linked if anyone is interested.
I’ve seen them. They don’t look like her.
Clio,
Buggery can be more than anal sex. It is “an act against nature”. I note an SF GATE article from 30 July 2009 entitled: “”A videotape, a shotgun, a horse, and buggery.”
It was not anal sex act done by the defendant.
Barry,
Who are them which you seen?
https://tinyurl.com/7hyuknxk
Don’t click if you are under 18 and/or are offended by bare female breasts and buttocks.
http://www.imagefap.com/pictures/4564982/Big-Butt-Heidi?gid=4564982&view=2
Again, don’t click if you are under 18 and/or are offended by bare female breasts, vagina, anus, or dildo penetration.
The above is the kind of disgusting smut (((they))) push on us.
Heidi looks nothing like Chelene.
I asked her about it on a Twitter DM and she blocked me. We were pretty cordial on there before that. It made me sad.
Ross,
Who is Heidi? What dies Heidi look like? What does Heidi have to do with these posts?
“Big Butt Heidi” is the “plumper” nude model (((you))) and Robinson claimed to be Nightingale.
Pyramid,
Heidi or Chelene?
Chelene
Wow, what liars!
Hmmmm, I wonder if Chelene knows “PPP’s” true identity. I suspect “PPP” plays other roles here, like “Egyptian God,” etc…
I have made no claim that Disco Stick’s Heidi is the same person which is alternatively known by the name of Chelene.
I am PPP. My Twitter is https://twitter.com/hotkareem1
Chelene’s Twitter is https://twitter.com/ChelNightingale
What a sick Fuck. Good riddance.
Seidenberg I hope you croak soon too. Sooner the better.
1 down, 1 to go
Can anyone provide a link to seidenberg or Robinson claiming that the plumper model was NIghtingale?
Yes, “Hot Kareem” is another one of your characters, but who are you?
Here is Seidenberg using the name “wikileaks”:
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/05/jim-gilchrist-accused-of-selling-endorsements/#comment-288659
See https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/08/virgil-goode-to-endorse-chelene-nightingale/#comment-288779
Grundmann explains everything:
“Okay, it is time to clear this up. I have seen the photo which claims that it is Chelene. Although I don’t currently know how to do it I understand that photoshopping is very easy to do. Would ” delphi seer,” a.k.a. Davi Rodrigues, photoshop a picture of Chelene as part of his endless infantile campaign to get revenge? Absolutely. Does it look like Chelene? Yes. Does that mean it is her? No. Am I going to ask her? No. Why? Because the posting of the picture tells me far more about the posters of it than the lady in the picture. Davi – Why are you so cowardly to hide behind the name ” delphi seer?” If you are going to continue attacking Chelene then just come out with your own name. Stop being a coward. How long has Chelene been away from Save Our State? 1 year? 2 years? And yet you still attack her in, in this case, the most childish way(s). Does it make a difference to me? No. For even if it is Chelene she is still far more of a patriot and fighter for our state and nation than you can ever be or ever dream of being. The poster of the picture is simply an immature child working in league with real traitors to the nation such as Mark Seidenberg who continues, as the ultra coward that he is, to write under fake names like ” FORMER CPER/former CPer ” above. The posting of the picture is a Mark Robinson/Seidenberg/Davi Rodrigues production. Why? Because Chelene was recently appointed to lead a southern California patriot group and it is the objective of the Robinson Crime Syndicate, of which Mark Seidenberg is the ” money bags “/ADL-SPLC agent, to destroy the 3rd party conservative movement in the state and nation in whatever way it may manifest. They will do whatever it takes to achieve that objective. Mark Seidenberg is a Republican Party mole who is also an agent of the Anti-Defamation League ( ADL ) and the Southern Poverty Law Center ( SPLC ), the 2 greatest promoters of homosexuality in our nations school system in addition to their total support of homosexual marriage. He is an enemy of our nation and an enemy of humanity. Does Chelene work with treasonous organizations like the ADL and the SPLC? No, but Mark Seidenberg, who is in league with Davi Rodrigues to attack Chelene, does. It is Mark Seidenberg who owes an apology to America for being a traitor and it is Davi Rodrigues who should apologize for working with such a traitor to destroy a true patriot to the nation. Mark Seidenberg is working every day to betray our nation. It is he and his associates such as Davi Rodrigues who are ” sickening.” I support Chelene. She is a woman of honor and integrity who is fighting everyday, even now after the election, for our state and nation. She is not a traitor like Mark Seidenberg nor a coward like Siedenberg and Rodrigues. If the best that they can do to attack her is to post this picture then that exposes even more than before how pathetic they are.”
Disco Stick,
What you have are lies in the posting of Dr. Don
Grundmann. Note the posting it is date 6 December 2010. Grundmann falsely state that he was the Chairman of the American Independent Party when the last day he was an officer of the AIP was 2 September 2008. He was never the Chairman of the AIP. I expect he will talk about
fake telephones again next.
Any one can contact the Secretary of State and confirm
that Grundmann was never the Chairman or Vice Chairman of the AIP. In 2008 in Kansas City he could not find one person in the California delegation to cast a vote
for Grundmann other than himself for an endorsement for POTUS.
The person posting as wikileaks doesn’t sound like seidenberg or Robinson. It is most likely Davi Rodrigues.
It was Robinson and Seidenberg. This was clearly a jew conspiracy against Chelene . The Jews oppose everything good in the world. We will not breathe free until we kill the last Jew.
Markham Robinson was an imperfect person,like all of us, but I do not see what he did to deserve so much disrespect upon his passing. People who feel the need to make negative remarks about someone who just died reveal their own low character. Think of something nice about the recently deceased. If you can’t think of anything nice, at least be quiet.
The antisemitic comments are gratuitous also. Was Robinson even Jewish?
Seidenberg’s religion says it is okay to lie to gentiles.
He’s a Muslim?
(((Jed)))
Troy – A) Yes, we are all imperfect but Robinson was a fantastically evil person who not only chose ” imperfection ” but reveled in it like a pig in slop. He could have repented from his evil and worked to reverse his evil actions but instead he ” tripled-down ” and reenforced his evil actions while glorifying himself in the process. Hence his evil must be exposed lest he ” skate ” with a pristine lie covering up for his utter corruption. I make ” negative remarks ” about him both because he richly deserves them and that his evil must be exposed; especially since that evil continues on via the similar evil of Seidenberg and his control of the AIP as a ” Potemkin Village ” party which is completely opposite its fake public image; i.e.; his evil lives on.
B) If there are ” anti-semitic ” remarks or perspectives presented that is all due to Seidenberg and his own staggeringly evil character which brings a stain upon Jewish believers. To complain about his evil and to expose it is just like observing that gravity exists. Attempting to shield him and sanitize his evil by calling it ” anti-semitic ” is a common tactic by rats like Seidenberg to excuse and sanitize their ratness and thus to continue merrily on their way while they continue to betray humanity. Exposing a rat like Seidenberg is not an attack upon all Jewish people bur simply one who gives all Jewish people a very very bad reputation by hiding behind his yarmaluke while attacking and working to destroy our Republic. He was, is, and will be an Enemy of Humanity.
I heard the AIP took a pay off last year to put Rocky De La Fuente on the ballot for President.
Disco Stick – A) Thank you for your commentary on Seidenberg. You expressed your perspectives, and reality, very well. B) I had forgotten about Davi Rodrigues and his actions. I did remember that Robinson and Seidenberg used a very sick rodent named Don Lake to spread the evil rumors about Chelene. They use(d) ” cut-outs ” to spread their evil and then deny that such evil springs from them. Lake was placed on the AIP Central Committee as a reward for being a demon. C) Robinson was a self-proclaimed ” Christian Zionist.” That is why he was recruited to be a mole in the AIP so as to attack the George Washington/non-Zionist foreign policy of the AIP and CP. At the time of their attack there was a very strong threat of an ” exodus ” from the Republican Party of true Christians who were sick and tired of RINO pro-war/pro-abortion control of the Party. Robinson and Seidenberg were Deep State agents who were assigned to stop that possibility. Hence after ” Plan A” of Alan Keyes getting the CP Presidential nomination was stopped they instituted ” Plan B ” of filing fake documents with the CA SOS office.
Rest in PEACE to my mentor and my Father in the Lord the honorable Markham Robinson. He was a United States Veteran that found me years ago when I was young. He definitely tripped me out at times because of how passionate he was about our Conservative Political Philosophy in California and the United States. I am only 49 years old and my plan is to continue pushing the AIPCA forward, while I continue honoring the legacy of Mr Robinson. Our CONDOLENCES to our colleague Mary Robinson. We will not sit here and watch you disrespect any members of the Jewish community or United States Veterans. 714-808-2545 please contact me so that I can come to your city to have a meeting with you face to face so that we can talk in a bipartisan way about the future of California. God bless you all and once again our deepest CONDOLENCES to the Robinson family. Thanks to Richard Winger for posting this.
Andy – I have been informed of the same thing and that this was the reason that De La Fuente could be, as was related to me, pro-abortion and pro-sodomite and still the the ballot line of a ” Christian ” party. Yet another example, among countless, of the Deep State controlled AIP being completely different from its surface facade/illusion.
Robert – A) If a Jewish person, a Veteran, or anybody else does ratfink and evil things they should be called out and exposed for their evil. They should not be allowed to hide behind their group as a shield to both protect themselves from exposure but especially to continue their attack against humanity and our Republic. I have described the criminal actions of both Robinson and Seidenberg at TheCorruptionOfAlanKeyes.blogspot.com. They have had over a decade to repent and reverse their evil/corruption but instead they reveled in it and expanded upon it.
B) I will call you shortly.
Rocky’s views seem to be all over the map, so he may have had some things in common with the AIP, but he was clearly pretty far removed from the AIP’s stated platform. They put Kanye West on as his running mate for VP, without his consent. Kanye West opposes abortion, but I don’t think he was truly inline with AIP’s platform either.
Does the AIP really stand for anything anymore anyway? The party is an empty shell. It has lots of confused registered voters who do not know it is a party or what its platform says, a do nothing state committee, and pretty much zero activism for almost 10 years.
My ancestry is Welsh and my religion is Wiccan, but thanks.
Grundman, are you kidding? There are people on here literally calling for a new holocaust and killing every last Jew among other things. Guess what? It’s not all due to Seidenberg!
Troy – People can flap their jaws about a lot of things but that does not preclude the reality of a singular Jewish person like Seidenberg doing monstrously evil things for which he must be challenged and exposed. He must not be allowed to hide behind a phony claim of ” anti-semnitism ” as a shield for his evil. Just as his actions are a smear of and stain upon the Jewish community we must still acknowledge them as singular actions performed by him that are not reflective of the community as a whole; i.e.; if I did evil actions like Robinson and Seidenberg it would reflect negatively on the Grundmann name but my fellow Grundmanns can accurately say that they have no responsibility for, or ( especially ) support of, my evil deeds.
To be honest I don’t know Seidenberg from Shinola. Maybe he’s as bad as you say and maybe not. But you would have to be deaf, dumb, and blind to miss the antisemitic viciousness in this thread. It goes way above and beyond Seidenberg.
I don’t know what kind of name Grundman is. German? Swedish? What if there were people on here saying Germans or Swedes were satanic, responsible for all the world’s evil, and all need to be killed? I’m just a Georgia redneck, but I’d call that shit out any day. And I don’t give a good damn what Seidenbeg is or ain’t, I’m calling it out.
For people complaining against me they can take a number and get in line. I have definite problems with Jewish theology but for this issue I am doing what I have done for years ( ever since their first evil actions ) – exposing the horrific and monstrous evil of Robinson and Seidenberg as individuals who are personally responsible for their support of evil. That has nothing to do with whatever groups they belong(ed) to and everything to do with them personally being walking demons who were dedicated, despite and in reverse of any and all surface appearances, to evil in every atom of their being. As I related to Robert – there are many many people who saw and experienced the same evil. They have the same experience as I that Robinson and Seidenberg were/are the epitomy of horrific and monstrous corruption and evil. I am simply the person who both documented it and attacked it. If people attack ” Grundmanns ” for any reason then I deserve the same treatment – expose and challenge my singular evil and don’t let me hide behind a shield of ” anti-Grundmannism.” At the same time don’t smear all Grundmanns because of my singular alleged ratness.
If you missed the general antisemitic comments in this thread, read it again. I made it clear I commented about those and not about you, Robinson, or Seidenberg, none of whom I know much about. As for religion? I don’t really want to argue about religion. I grew up Southern Baptist and Presbyterian at different times in my childhood and young adulthood. Now I see Judaism, Christianity and Islam as three weeds from the same root. But I don’t hate all adherents of any of those religions or any ethnic groups. I’ve come to see all such group hatred as stupid. I understand it though, I grew up prejudiced against all kinds of groups.
Shut up “Troy”. We all know who (((you))) are and it’s none of the things (((you))) claim.
I’m exactly who I say I am, and you’re delusional as well as being a bigot. I used to be a bigot, but I never had delusions like what you apparently suffer from.
LOL! Prove your identity, “Troy”. I bet you are lying.
As an addendum to my previous comments – Bill Shearer built the CP from the ground up. He and Howard Phillips worked extremely hard to build the CP into a national party which could provide a true alternative on the national scene. They were on the cusp/verge of accomplishing that when the Deep State moles Robinson and Seidenberg ( the ” bag man ” connection with the Deep State ) attacked and filed fake documents with the CA SOS office for the specific purpose of breaking the AIP from the CP and hence to destroy that 3rd party option. Everything that Bill and Howard built was deliberately destroyed by the monstrous corruption of Robinson and Seidenberg – all to promote Zionism by destroying the George Washington foreign policy of the CP. Robinson built nothing but instead stole the work of Bill Shearer in order to destroy it. That is only part of why he was a lying monstrous cowardly traitor. His legacy is to be remembered as the ultra evil monster that he was. An Enemy of Humanity who will forever be known as a traitor to The Republic. May he be forever cursed and remembered as a Judas to America. Like any demon he could never build anything but could only steal the work of others and then destroy it. I am glad to know that The Creator will cast him into the Permanent Fire. He will deserve every second of eternal suffering for his unrepentant and horrific evil.
Do not be fooled by Dr. Don Grundmann. The last office he held in the American Independent Party of California was ended on 2 September 2008: On 3 September 2008
he Dr.Grundmann had no connection with the AIP. That created an open seat on the AIP board. Therefore the remained of the term covering the US Senate seat entitled to Dr. Grundmann from the 2006 election for being the nominee of the Senate in 2006 went to Mr. Lake by a vote of the State Central Committee of AIP. In effect Dr. Don Grundmann on his own in 2006 limited his own term
on the AIP board ending 2 September 2008.
As you can see in Dr. Grundmann postings be lied by claiming he was the Chairman of the AIP in 2010, when
his last date on the State Central Committee was 2 September 2008.
Whatever happened to Lake?
I would not be surprised if Don Lake passed away.
Whatever happened to that guy in West Virginia?
Are these comments true or just garbage troll comments from Robert K Stock and the like?
I am thankful to Richard Winger for his generally libertarian commments policy. I have learned a lot from them. I had no idea that the AIP was such a hot property that people are fighting a turf war over it.
I have never filed fake documents with the Secretary of State.
It has ballot access in the most-populous US state. That’s valuable.
Even though the AIP has turned into a big joke, it poses something which is extremely valuable, and is difficult to obtain, and that is recognized party status, which means ballot access, in the most populated state of California.
If the Constitution Party was ever going to amount to anything, it needs ballot access, and losing their state affiliate that has ballot access in California was a devastating blow.
It is news to me that William Shearer “built the CP from
the ground up”.
The American independent Party of California is no joke.
We are active with 710,259 electors and it have endorsed Larry Elder for Governor of California on the recall election of 14 September and 2021. No other qualified political party has done that.
95% (or maybe higher) of the people who registered to vote in California have NO IDEA that it is a political party, or what its platform is.
Also, you cite endorsing Larry Elder for Governor as a big accomplishment. Larry Elder is running as a REPUBLICAN, not an American Independent Party candidate, so your big accomplishment here is endirsing a candidate from ANOTHER political party.
Yes, the AIP of California IS a big joke. It is one of the biggest laughingstocks in politics.
Andy
California elections do not have political primaries except for POTUS and VPOTUS. One can run in any party primary for those offices. Even presidential electors in
California do not have to be In AIP to run. This was the case when my friend V. Goode for Virginia ran for elector in California in 2016.
Why do you think I need to prove something to you, “Andy”? I never heard of you or the rest of you fools. I told you the truth, and what you believe, or don’t, well that’s on you. Maybe you lie so much that you constantly suspect and accuse others of what you do your self. I’ve found that to be a common trait.
But ask yourself this, why is it that no one else here seems to think that, it’s not ok that there are people here straight up advocating genocide, and just because I don’t sweep it under the rug like the rest of you smirking idiots, that makes me the oddball and a liar to boot? Y’all seem to me, like the “good Germans ” that pretended the holocaust wasn’t happening, or aided and abetted it. You folks are a disgrace and , you ought to be ashamed of your selves.
STFU. We all know (((you))) posted the comment as “Dolph”.
Who is “we all,” jerkoff? I didn’t, but I would not be surprised if you did. And it was far from the only comment like that above. YOU sure didn’t call any of that fucked up shit out, even if you didn’t post it, you probably agree with it. The only thing you’re pushing back against is the one person calling that bull shit out and with some made up crap about how you “all” supposedly know something. Gotta love it too, that I checked back here after a day and a half and it didn’t take you as long as it took me to hit the back button to post your moronic reply. Do you have a job, a family, or a life of any kind? Or is this pretty much it for you? No wonder you’re so wrapped up in hate. It’s eating you alive, ain’t it, boy? I don’t care where you’re from or who your people are, that’s just downright sad and pathetic. Keep wallowing in your hatred and delusions since that’s all that’s left of you.
Andy,
You are correct on one point the “hijacking of a political party is dirty”. That is what Dr. Grundmann did by trying to confuse the public with lies by stating he was elect Vice Chairman of the AIP three different dates in June 2008.
That is why members of the State Central Committee of the AIP refer to Dr. Grundmann as “three dates Don”.
Mark Seidenberg, what what the hijacking which took place in 2008, when the AIP put Alan Keyes on the ballot instead of Chuck Baldwin? The AIP was the California affiliate of the Constitution Party, so it should have put the official Constitution Party candidate, Chuck Baldwin, on the ballot, but instead, it put Alan Keyes on the ballot, a many who deviated from the CP’s platform on the wars in the Middle East, the Patriot Act, and the United Nations.
The National CP, what’s left of it, if elevated by some nefarious scheme to power, would bring a holocaust like no other to our land. Haters gotta hate. I denounce the hypocritical self-righteous haters…
Where’s the Life and Liberty Party?
Andy,
You are incorrect. The AIP did not put Alan Keyes on the ballot instead of Chuck Baldwin. We put Alan Keyes on the ballot after the AIP ended its affiliation with the Constitution Party. That took place after the CP meeting in Kansas City on the recommendation of the State Chairman of the Independent American Party of Nevada.
Andy,
The bottom line is the AIP was not affiliated with the Constitution Party when Alan Keyes went on the California Ballot. Also in Kansas City 80 % of the California Delegation we’re backing Dr. Alan Keyes for POTUS in Kansas City. At the first poll of the CA Delegation the vote was 80% for Keyes. One vote less than 20%! For Chuck Baldwin. That one vote was Dr. Don Grundmann who wanted to vote for himself for POTUS. He could find no other delegate at the hr CA Delegation to back him.
The in June of 2008 Dr. Don Grundmann began to lie and claimed he was elected on three different dates in June 2008 as Vice Chairman of the AIP. Therefore Don Grundmann became known as “Three dates Don”.
J.R. Myers – What the hell are you talking about??? Who are the haters and what do they hate?
The horrific monstrous evil of the god-forsaken walking demons known as Mark Seidenberg and Mark Robinson was richly illustrated by their placing Don Lake, their ” cut-out ” stand-in, on the Central Committee of the AIP as a reward for his spreading the horrific lie of Chelene having sex with animals. I am very happy that as I write this Mark Robinson is shrieking in agony in hell and I am similarly very happy that Mark Seidenberg will so deservedly join him. As I have previously stated, the beyond awful and beyond monstrous evil of these satanic mutants can barely be expressed in words. Imagination is truly inadequate to begin to fathom the depths of their depravity. But Robinsons time is up and he will now pay for his choice throughout eternity. In return for the earthly glorification of his ego he was more than willing to sell his very soul. He would stab his grandmother in the back in return for his own glorification and now he will receive his just reward for his incalculable evil.
You’re next Mark. The Creator will bring you to Justice for your crimes. You, as with Robinson, richly deserve your reward.
And I will be happy knowing that a true Enemy of Humanity like you will not escape.
Andy – As Seidenberg says they had already betrayed the CP. The whole purpose of their Deep State attack was to stop the CP candidate from being on the CA ballot. They were heavily bankrolled moles placed within the AIP to stop the CP from successfully challenging the GOP. It was an intelligence initiated by and at the highest levels of the GOP.
Seidenberg was the ” bag man ” but Robinson didn’t need money. All they had to do was stroke his ego for which he would do ANYTHING. He was the epitomy of vanity and pompousness. He considered himself as the greatest parlimentarian in the universe and constantly talked about ” following the rules ” – until it was good for him to break them when he and Seidenberg filed fake documents with the state.
Hey JR, were you able to bang Tiara Lusk or did she turn you down for being a creep perv?
I have never filed “fake documents” with the CA Secretary of State. Dr. Don Grundmann is passing out disinformation on his comments. To my knowledge in 2008 Ed Noonan, Chairman of the American Independent Party of California between 2006 to 2008 was filing real documents with the California Secretary of State. Ed Noonan was the Chairman of the AIP of California until
3 September 2008. On 3 September 2008, Markham
Robinson became Chairman until 3 September 2008.
It should be noted that Dr. Don Grundmann was making claims he was elected Vice Chairman of the AIP on three different dates in June, 2008. That month of June 2008,
I was the Vice Chairman of the AIP having been elected in
September 2006 in Sacramento County meeting of AIP.
All three dates that Grundmann posted he was elected Vice Chairman had to be face because I was the Vice Chairman of the Party.
I recall the Mr. King was making a claim that the meeting in 2006 did not take place in Sacramento. Yet the Judge
In the case ruled in King v. CA Secretary of State that the
2006 meeting did take place in “Sacramento” which both Noonan and I were elected to the office of Chairman and Vice Chairman of the AIP.
I just recalled that Don Grundmann voted for me as the Vice Chairman of AIP at the September, 2006 meeting in Sacramento County. That was a two year term.
Yet “three dates Don” has claimed he was the Vice Chairman of the AIP having been elected to that office in
June 2008. His claims on being elected on three different dates in June 2008.
Just notice a typo error. Markham Robinson term as Chairman of AIP was between 2008 to 2010.
I imagine that if Don voted for you, he did so BEFORE he found out that you are a backstabber and traitor.
I have supported people who later went on to burn me as well, so I know what it is like to be stabbed in the back and let down.
So, how did Rocky get the AIP nomination in 2020?
Walter – I have been told that $10,000 to Seidenberg got him the nomination.
Was there any recorded vote by any committee or convention to give Rocky the nomination?
I heard that he paid them off. I do not know if it was in the form of a donation to their party, or if he paid off their state committee members directly, but I heard it was a payoff.
I do not blame him, as he was just looking for a way to get on the California ballot.
I do blame the AIP for lacking principles.
The ” principles ” of the AIP are exactly what they have always been with Robinson and Seidenberg – 1) stop any development of the 3rd party conservative movement, both in California and nationally; 2) produce a political black/sinkhole which swallows up, wastes, and dissipates any energy of thoughtful conservative ( especially Christian ) citizens so that they are frustrated and give up; i.e.; do nothing and stand for nothing; 3) ( the most important ) block the development of any resistance or alternative to both the Deep State and its subdivision of the Republican Party RINO Establishment.
The CP was a developing threat to both of these Enemies of Humanity. Robinson and Seidenberg were intelligence operatives/moles who were dispatched by the Deep State to stop that threat. They easily used a stupid chump egomaniac like Ed Noonan ( who despised Nancy Shearer, Bill’s daughter ) to betray Bill Shearer and all of his years of hard work. Ed was simply like a mini-Robinson – feed his ego and imagination by telling him how wonderful he is and he will betray anyone and anything ( even his greatest mentor Bill Shearer who completely trusted him ) in exchange for his ego food. Robinson and Seidenberg easily played Noonan like a violin by using his hatred/resentment to completely control him.
Bottom Line – The AIP was purposefully killed by the Deep State but has been kept ” alive ” as a Potemkin Village/zombie political party in order to continuously poison, betray, drag down, and destroy the 3rd party conservative/Constitutionalist movement. Their surface inaction is not the ” failure ” that it appears to be but rather the exactly intended ” successful ” result of a plan to produce a political party which is purposefully designed to betray its followers who have no idea of the real beliefs, motives, history, and objectives of its controllers; followers who will defend its demon controllers no matter how monstrously sick and utterly evil their actions are.
Nancy was pro-choice.
Rocky DeLaFuente is pro choice, supports fag marriage, and anti gun and yet you people still made him your standard bearer.
Ed Noonan was not a “chump” (sic.) or “stupid” (sic.) as Don Grundmann claimed in the above post. Who was the stupid person anyway. Grundmann get the nomination for
the US Senate in primary in 2006 which would have given him a six year term on the State Central Committee. Then he run for election to the National Committee on 3 September 2006 and get elected for a office term ending on 2 September 2008.
Don Lake then get the remainder of the original term which Don Grundmann gave up on 3 September 2006.
That is the reason Don Grundmann last day on the state central committee was 2 September 2008.
Ed Noonan removed Don “Three Date Don” Grundmann from all offices other than the State Central Committee prior to 2 September 2008.
Walter Ziobro,
Yes there was a recorded vote.
Wow,
I just noticed that Don Grundmann has posted on a site he made reference here that he is the “legal” (sic.) Vice Chairman of the AIP. Up till his death Markham
Robinson was the Vice Chairman of the AIP. I find no reason to believe that Don Grundmann was ever a Vice Chairman of the AIP of California. Grundmann must be
mistaken.
I note that Dr. Don Grundmann states on his post dated 26 August 2021 at 11:18am that he states “he [Robinson] was part of a team which file fake documents with the state to seize control of the AIP.”
I know of no “team” that Markham Robinson was ever on which filed “fake documents” with the “state” that could seize control of the AIP. I know of no “fake documents” filed by Robinson personally or as a team with the State of California.
This statement is just a lie on the part of Dr. Don Grundmann. If he had a copy of a fake document my guess he would have posted it years ago.
There are no fake documents by a “team” as Dr. Grundmann suggests in his posting of 26 August 2021.
TheCorruptionOfAlanKeyes.blogspot.com documents the criminality and the criminals in the attack of the Deep State moles on the AIP.
There were/are dozens of people who observed the monstrous corruption of Robinson and Seidenberg.
They are Enemies of Humanity.
Mark : Can you hear the screams of Robinson as he burns in hell? You are next. You may escape temporal justice but, happily, you will have no escape from the justice of The Creator.
Mark Seidenberg, how many active county affiliates does the AIP of CA have? How often do they have meetings, and how many people typically show up? How many people showed up to the last two AIP state conventions? How many candidates did the AIP run last year? How many elected office holders does the AIP have?
Andy,
I do not know how many are in CA, because I am no longer in that party. The last time I checked the party registration was 710,259.
Three dates Don,
You are mistaken. Who are/were these dozen of people that purportedly claim that witness “monstrous corruption” by anyone associated with the leadership of the AIP of California? Why do you believe these dozen are of people are “enemies of humanity”?
I can not hear screams of anyone as he burns in hell.
I have no such power. Does Dr. Don “three dates Don”’
Grundmann have such powers to hear any sounds coming from Hell?
The last date that Don Grundmann by party records of the AIP was an officer was 2 September 2008. Does Dr. Don Grundmann dispute these party records. If so, why?
Please note the AIP does not use fake phones to conduct business. The phone we have used work and are not
fake phones.
Wow,
I got the number wrong on Grundmann false claim. I thought he stated a dozen, I stand corrected. He stated dozens that would imply at least 24 in less he met a baker dozens. Then that would imply at least 26.
Mark : In olden days patriots would have minimally tarred and feathered you and Robinson for your monstrous evil but in our times you have the protection of our legal system to sanitize your betrayal and then escape the temporal world by your ” natural ” and not-soon-enough death. No matter, as you will never escape Hell when Robinson, an Enemy of Humanity just as you are, is indeed just starting his time of forever burning. I am happy that The Creator will not let monsters like you escape from reaping your just rewards. You can go right ahead making nonsense comments but your ” time ” is coming and for myself it will be a, as with Robinson, happy time knowing that evil has not escaped judgement. Justice, as portrayed in the movie ” Ghost,”is coming for you. Your own personal and permanent demons will be waiting for your arrival.
Dr. Don “Three Dates Don” Grundmann can not tell the truth.
He stated that he was elected Vice-Chairman of the AIP on these dates, viz., June 8, June 27, & June 29, 2008.
He is just lying. He was never the Vice Chairman of the AIP.
Without the imput of Dr. Grundmann the registration of the AIP has grown from from 382,380 on 5 January 2010 to 710,259 under the leadership of Markham Robinson.
The last day that Dr. Grundmann was an officer of the AIP was on 2 September 2008. I See he can not come up with any documents that disprove this fact.
I am not currently a member of the AIP of California.,
Andy,
Please note that I and Ed Noonan were elected on 3 September 2006. Grundmann was also elected the same day to the National Committee. Grundmann and Noonan last day in office was 2 September 2008. Markham Robinson became the Chairman of the AIP on 3 September 2008. Grundmann knew that he and Ed Noonan were holding their offices for a two year term.
So we have Dr. Don Grundmann make false statements of being elected as Vice Chairman and claim he took office on June 7, June 27, and June 29 of 2008. This is a reason why not to believe Dr. Grundmann as to facts of the AIP, because he makes false statement as to offices he held in the AIP.
Mark : Your silly comment(s) do not change the facts noted at TheCorruptionOfAlanKeyes.blogspot.com. It is a permanent record of the monstrous corruption of Robinson and yourself.
What was posted by Grundmann was false. The American Independent Party left the Constitution Party before the nomination of Dr. Alan Keyes for POTUS.
Also Dr. Don Grundmann lied about becoming Vice Chairman of the AIP in June, 20008. He post three false dates of being elected as Vice Chairman of the AIP, viz., June 7, June 27, and June 29. All these false dates by Grundmann were in 2008.
False claims of dates becoming an officer of a political party is just lying to the electorate and is not silly.
Is (((Seidenberg))) pro-choice, pro-pornography, and pro-fag marriage?
Mark Seidenberg, you said that you are no longer in the American Independent Party, so you could not answer any of my above questions. How long ago did you leave the American Independent Party? What was the approximate attendance at the last American Independent Party state convention you attended? How many counties in California did the American Independent Party had active affiliates, and about how many people showed up at these county affiliate meetings, the last time you were in the AIP? How many candidates did the AIP run for political office the last time you were involved in the AIP?
Deport Rocky,
1. No to your question on pro-choice, I believe that there should not be abortions expected if the baby is the cause
of giving life threatening illness to the mother. All people
have a right to self defense. The Doctor should try to safe both mother and child.
2. I do not watch pornography. I have seen a few movies at parties before weddings in my life. Some might call
pornography like the movie “Deep Throught” with Lovelace. But that was at a party. I believe in the 1st Amendment.
3. I believe that marriage should be between one man
and one woman. However others disagree and I will
not impose that belief on them.
Andy,
I departed the AIP on 31 December 2020. The answer was one. it was an on line meeting, because the Sacramento County Police Department would not allow the party to have an in person meeting. There was Covid – 19. There are 58 counties in California. I have no information now on the numbers in each county. Total
the last check was 710,259 electors in AIP of CA. That makes AIP the third largest political Party in CA.
“Total
the last check was 710,259 electors in AIP of CA. That makes AIP the third largest political Party in CA.”
Mark, you are not even in the AIP anymore, yet you are still being disingenuous. You know DAMN WELL that 95% plus of those people have NO IDEA that the American Independent Party is an actual political party, or what its platform is.
REALITY is that the AIP has close to ZERO activism. It is just a big empty shell with a committee on top of it.
“Andy,
I departed the AIP on 31 December 2020. The answer was one. it was an on line meeting, because the Sacramento County Police Department would not allow the party to have an in person meeting. There was Covid – 19. There are 58 counties in California. I have no information now on the numbers in each county.:
How many people participated in that online meeting?
You’ve only been out of the AIP for 9 months. Are you telling me you have NO IDEA how many counties in California had an active and functioning county affiliate? I can easily find this information out for the Libertarian Party of California, and even without looking it up right now, I can tell you that they have an active county affiliate in most of the counties in California.
Grundmann can not keep his story the same. For one thing he claims to be elected to the office of Vice Chairman when he knows that is a lie. He gave three false dates of becoming the Vice Chairman of the AIP of CA. All that got home the handle of “Three dates Don”.
He falsely claimed the dates of June 7, June 27, and June 29, 2008 of being elected the Vice Chairman. He also knew that I was the elected Vice Chairman because he voted for me on 3 September 2006 to the office of Vice Chairman.
The last day that Don Grundmann was an officer
of the American Independent Party was on 2 September 2008.
Here’s a map of the counties in California where the Libertarian Party has an active county affiliate.
If I counted right, it looks like the LP of California has active county affiliates in 37 out of 58 counties, which comes out to 63.79% of the counties, including the most populated ones.
How many counties does the American Independent Party have an active county affiliate operating?
https://ca.lp.org/county-organizations/
The Libertarian Party currently has 19 people in elected government offices. How many does the American Independent Party have?
https://ca.lp.org/elected-officials/
Andy,
You are wrong. The AIP is active. I get many emails a day from party members of the AIP.,
If you have a problem you can join some other party., AIP is active. Even though we have one AIP member running now for Governor out of the list of 53. The AIP is backing a Republican name Larry Elder. Vote for. Larry Elder on
14 September 2021.
I attended the Libertarian Party of California State Convention in 2020. I don’t know the exact number of people that were there, but I do know that California gets a little over 100 delegate seats to the Libertarian National Convention, and that there were more people at the convention that delegate seats available. There were also some people who showed up at the convention who did not bother signing in as delegates, as in they just came to socialize and to watch the presidential debate. So I would say that there were around 200 and something people there, and probably around 300 or so during the peak time period, which was the evening of the presidential debate.
How many people have shown up to the last few AIP state conventions?
” The AIP is backing a Republican name Larry Elder. Vote for. Larry Elder on
14 September 2021.”
Larry Elder is a good candidate, but he is NOT with the American Independent Party. He is running as a Republican.
Andy by law the AIP convention has to meet in Sacramento, CA. The Libertarian Party can meeting anywhere it pleases.
In 2020 the Sacramento Police Department rejected a permit for a convention.
Going back to 2008. Jim King in his plan takeover attempt held a false convention in Los Angeles claiming it was a convention. The fools at Los Angeles in 2008 held a meeting in the wrong county, which was an issue they lost on in three court cases.
The law requires conventions in “Sacramento”.
King screwed up from the beginning with the wrong location.
How many people showed up to the AIP state conventions in 2019 and 2018 and 2017 and 2016?
Grundmann does show up at the AIP meeting as a member of the National Committee in Sacramento.
That helped with the quorum in 2008. That was the last helpful thing that Don Grundmann did for the AIP.
Andy AIP Conventions are every two years, no every year.
Mark, how many people show up at the last few AIP State Conventions?
The LP of California has a convention every year.
Andy,
Since 2012 we allowed. Attendance by remote in addition to the Proxy voting so there have been meeting with only 30 to 40 live persons present. Last year because of Covid 19 I was the only person present. This type of meeting Is the way of the future. it will keep from getting sick.
Andy – I walked into the AIP fake ” Convention ” on 2008 to call them out on their corruption and them left. Of course the ultra corrupt Seidenberg would use my presense to claim that a ” quorum ” was achieved when no such ” quorum ” existed when they had their fake Central Committee meeting to approve the fake documents which they filed with the state in their attack against the CP via the AIP. Just another example of Seidenberg corruption.
Their fake meeting which I referred to ( and additionally discussed at TheCorruptionOfAlanKeyes.blogspot.com ) consisted of 5 members ( their claimed ” quorum ” ) of the 24 member Central Committee.
Back to the issues of Dr. Don “Three Dates Don” Grundmann. He is known far and wide by that handle because he claimed he got elected on three different dates in June 2008 as the Vice Chairman of the AIP. The dates he posted in his wild false claim of being elected was June 7, June 27, and June 29, of 2008. He was not elected at all as Vice Chairman of AIP. The last thing he was elected to in AIP was on September 3, 2006 as a National Committeeman which term ended on September 2, 2008.
Shut up about “Three Dates Don”. It’s not a clever nickname and nobody here except you thinks it’s funny.
I’ve read the corruption of Alan Keyes website and, as a neutral observer, it is clear Seidenberg and Robinson are criminals who belong in prison. Robinson is probably in the center of hell right now performing mandatory fellatio on Satan.
Don Grundmann, Markham held proxy’s at the meeting by phone in additional to call in. William Shearer told me about the proxy rule at the Convention in 2004 when
Nancy was elected. Your were wrong about the number on the call. If that was the meeting call of the new affiliation with a national party in 2008. AIP ended the affiliation with Constitution Party at the suggestion of the State Chairman of the Independent American Party of Nevada, Mr. C. Henson. We had a quorum at the meeting we affiliated with the party formed for Dr. Alan Keyes.
This however does not explain why Dr. Don “Three Dates Don”‘Grundmann lied about being elected on
three dates in June 2008 as Vice-Chairman of AIP.
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Mr. Libertarian,
I never stated that “Three Dates Don” was funny. It was just a fact.
Since Grundmann posting was false. There are no facts which I belong in prison for. I am not a criminal. You are just wrong about act of Satan.
Mr. Libertarian,
Here is Satan
https:www.google.com/search?
q=Don+Grundmann+devil&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hf=en-
us&client=safari#imgru=27amUimxVj8V7M
If this does not work go to google and type Don Grundmann Devil. He is just evil.
The method of attack by Robinson and Seidenberg was to send out an e-mail notice for an 8 A.M. phone Central Committee meeting at 11:59 P.M of the previous night as compared to the normal notification time of 2 weeks minimum. Hence the Central Committee members such as myself who were traveling to the real meeting in L.A. were totally unaware of the Keyes faction ” meeting ” until well after it occurred and after the fake documents had been filed with the SOS office.
The method of attack by Robinson ( the ” parlimentarian ” ) and Seidenberg was to send out an e-mail notice for an 8 A.M. phone Central Committee meeting at 11:59 P.M of the previous night as compared to the normal notification time of 2 weeks minimum. Hence the Central Committee members such as myself who were traveling to the real meeting in L.A. were totally unaware of the Keyes faction ” meeting ” until well after it occurred and after the fake documents had been filed with the SOS office.
The election code of California does not allow conventions in Los Angeles of the AIP. Your purported convention in Los Angeles was void from start. Grundmann did show up at the Convention also in Sacramento and was seated as a delegate. Which the court noted is the three lawsuit started by Jim King.
To that extent that was helpful to Noonan. It also hurt King in the three lawsuits.
The party had no factions. Even the Kings voted for Keyes in Kansas City.
Ed Noonan was chairman and he called the meets of the party in Sacramento. No meeting was called by Noonan in Los Angeles.
when I showed up in Los Angeles, I was ask to call the meeting to order. I would not do that because that meeting was not called for by Chairman Noonan. Then the party secretary calls that meeting to order who was not a member of the State Central Committee. That was an additional flaw, which we did not raise in court. It would have been better for King if he had Grundmann call that meeting to order, so there would be a member of National Committee calling the meeting to order.
I hope Seidenberg’s been working on his fellatio skills because eventually he’ll be joining Robinson in polishing Satan’s knob for all eternity.
Disco Stick,
Fellatio is something I would no do. I did see it being done in that movie staring Linda Lovelace. I also was on
a jury that convicted a person for asking for money from
an undercover police officer in the year 1990 in the Beverly Hills Municipal Court. The movie I saw at a party of a friend that was getting married the next day.
When Dr. Don “Three Dates Don” Grundmann went into the Convention of the American Independent Party Convention at the Auditorium of the California Secretary of State in Sacramento he had notice of that location as the sight of the convention. “He did make a speech after I
gave him the floor on his point of order”, It was denied by me the Temporary chairman. It was never appealed by Dr. Don Grundmann. I told him that Chairman Noonan called no meeting in Los Angeles, therefore the meeting of his “so-called faction” was not the convention of the AIP. Then he walked out of the convention hall and began pounding on a door to make noice cause his request that the others at that convention leave was not followed by others in the hall.
I have no idea what Dr. Grundmann is talking about of 11:59 PM for notice. I was sleeping at that time.
Dr. Don Grundmann.
Conventions of the American Independent Party of California could not take place in Los Angeles. Kings attorneys in three lawsuits said it could, but three Superior Court judges told Jim King it could not take place outside
of Sacramento which included both the City or County.
Jim King lost on that legal point. Therefore it makes no
sense why Dr. Don Grundmann is bring it up now.
Don Grundmann,
There was never a meeting of the “Keyes faction” to my knowledge. I was not present at any faction meeting. The meeting you attended in Los Angeles was not called buy Ed Noonan the Chairman elected on 3 September 2006. You should know that Noonan was chairman of the AIP, because you voted for him.
The AIP do not conduct meeting with “fake telephones”. Why would you think we would use fake phones to conduct meetings?
First the Election Code does not permit conventions in
Los Angeles.
Second, the was no minimum Time requirement on Chairman Noonan To Call Meetings.
Chairman Noonan did not call a June meeting in Los Angeles.in 2008.
The person that sent out the notice of meeting in Los Angeles was not a member of the State Central Committee.
The person that called that Los Angeles meeting to order was not on the State Central Committee.
There was no two week or any time requirement for that phone meeting to have notice. The Chairman Needed a vote to affiliate which was a requirement Under the election code.
Chairman Ed Noonan acted correctly. The first of the court cases determined so. Robinson advised Noonan calling the meeting to affiliate was proper.
Wow,
Grundmann is still trying to assert that the event
In Los Angeles was a meeting of the American
Independent Party. King had three lawsuits related to the events that June. 2008. He lost all three in court.
The Court informed Mr. King that the so-called meeting in Los Angeles was void, because it’s location was not in Sacramento. King’s lawyers reply was that the meeting on September 3, 2006 most also be void, because the meeting was not in the City of Sacramento. The court replied that “Sacramento” could be either the City or County. The meeting of 3 September 2006 took
place in the County of Sacramento and therefore ok.
We never got to the fact that no member of the State Central Committee called the event in Los Angeles to order. King would have been better off if he would have Don Grundmann legally call that void meeting to
order, because under certain factors a National Committeeman could call such a meeting to order.
That is how the group backing King in Los Angles screwed themselves even more. it looks like Don
Grundmann is still not getting that the CA Election Code requires that conventions of the AIP take place in
“Sacramento”. It also should be noted that the County of Sacramento is divided into 25 communities. Sacramento is also only county in the State that has communities as subsets of the counties.
What we had in 2008 was Dr. Don “Three Dates Don” Grundmann who was the highest vote count in the California Primary without a nomination showing up in Kansas City at a convention of the CP and wanting the nomination. Other than himself (viz., his one vote) not one other delegate wanted to give him the vote. At the first poll of the California Delegation, I became aware that 80% of the CA wanted Dr. Alan Keyes. The other 20%
less Grundmann wanted Chuck Baldwin. Grundmann wanted me to enforce unit rule on First Ballot for him.
I told him no I would not force unit rule and he had zero support in the California Delegation. I was the elected head of the CA Delegation, thanks to the support of the Delegate Hills.
Since Grundmann got zero support from the CA Delegates other than himself, he directed me to cast his vote for Chuck Baldwin. THEREFORE the CA delegate vote was 80% for Keyes and 20% for Baldwin.
I’m not Jewish. I asked if Seidenberg was a Muslim because you said his religion says it’s OK to lie to gentiles. As far as I know radical jizzlam is the only religion that says it’s OK to lie to those who are not in their religion. Maybe you know something I don’t know. Thanks for presuming? Anyway like I said Seidenberg sounds like a Jew name but maybe he converted to Mohammetanism? If hes a jihadi haji now makes sense if his religion says it is ok to lie. But I have read the Bible and as far as I know, the Jew bible is just the same Old Testament of the Christian Bible and their is nothing in the Bible that says it is OK to lie to anybody. That’s why I asked a question. Sheesh. How the fuck do you deduce your mistooken presumption, that I am a jew off a simple ass question like that, mother fucker? Tell me your address and if you aint too far from Macon I will be down there and whip you mother fucking ass personally, bitcvh.
Also the sand niggers call the people who are not in there religion infidels, not gentiles, so simple ass dumb ass cunt mother fucker, so you are dumber than shit to boot.
“I’m not Jewish. I asked if Seidenberg was a Muslim because you said his religion says it’s OK to lie to gentiles.:
So said the obvious troll. LOL!
Jed Zeigler is a self-admitted homosexual.
It should be noted that Dr. Don Grundmann sent me an
email on 17 September 2010, after the ending of the Chairman term of Markham Robinson which ended on the close of 2 September 2010, that he Don “three dates Don” Grundmann was the Chairman of the AIP. I recall that the Police was call to remove Don Grundmann from the convention hall in Sacramento, because he would not leave the hall after ordered to leave by the S at A of the Central Committee of AIP. Grundmann informed the Police he was the Vice Chairman of AIP. So I get an
email from Dr. Grundmann claiming he is the Chairman of the AIP. Grundmann was never Chairman or Vice Chairman of the AIP. The last date he was on the AIP central Committee was 2 September 2008.
Is Jed Ziegler posting here? I have not seen him around in a long time. “Jed Ziegler” is not his real name, by the way.
Just read the great news the AIP registration in California is up again. it now stands at 715,712 electors.
Thanks to the good and effective hard work of Markham
Robinson.
How many of these people are actually Paul?
I am not sure if there are any Paul troll characters on this thread or not.
Paul is a character invented by Andy, among many others
https://www.tributearchive.com/obituaries/22331903/markham-gregory-robinson/vacaville/california/mccune-garden-chapel
Here’s the long winded obituary for Robinson. The burial ceremony will be September 24. If you want to cry, laugh, protest, or set yourself on fire that would be the time to do it. My hope is that Grundmann shows up in his devil costume and reminds everyone that Robinson is in hell for filing fake documents with the state.
Maybe Don should urinate on his grave.
Sidenjew should arrive in a potato sack smeared in ashes and set himself on fire at the funeral.
I second the suggestions that Gruntman should arrive in his gay devil outfit and piss on the Demon’s grave.
Jew Ziggler is a communist.
The holohoax is the biggest lie ever told.
It’s going to be one filthy gravesite. In addition to Grundmann’s piss, Seidenberg will probably do a Jew ritual with the blood of children and Stock will ejaculate semen as part of his Satanic custom. All that plus the piece of shit going into the ground.
Andy,
Why do you think Don maybe should urinate on any graves.
Mark, he dislikes him enough to do it.
Disco Stock, bingo!
Just discovered that Markham died. I don’t have a dog in this fight. Wasn’t an AIP member. It is annoying that a third rail political party cannot gain traction in California. The top two thing drove a box of nails into that hope. Although I do not have much recollection of the discourse between party officials and those at odds with them, I do remember Chelene Nightingale. I worked alongside her long enough to be able to profoundly state that she was not someone you’d want in a position of power. She lies as a daily bodily function, and her ego could choke a pod of whales. Her primary goal is fame. Be thankful she’s out of your lives and party
I am a former member of the AIPCA while it was under the leadership of Markham’s Chair.
I was asked in 2015/16 to be one of AIPCA electorates in the event Donald Trump were elected to go to Sacramento to certify on behalf of the AIPCA. At the time, I wasn’t able to commit due to other obligations.
I spent many, many hours talking with Markham (who I called Mark). He was extremely intelligent and versed in US Constitutional Law and well as California Constitutional Law.
He was passionate in his beliefs in Jesus Christ, election integrity, and the then mission of the American Independent Party of California.
He was heavily engaged with educating others via Twitter (now X) and had a massive following, larger than near his death after former Twitter Censored him and mass deleted his followers more than once.
I miss the valuable resource of information that Markham Robinson was. He was a light in this world that is greatly missed.
I think I can speak for Markham Robinson in my post to the attacks others have made on his character only after he passed away, in saying, “Haters, will be Haters”