Institute for Political Innovation Launches Missouri Initiative for Top-Four

Posted on by November 30, 2021

The Institute for Political Innovation has launched an initiative for a top-four system in Missouri. See this story. Like the other initiatives, this one makes it far more difficult for a party to attain or keep qualified status. By eliminating party nominees for all office except president, the initiative changes the definition of “party” from a group that got 2% for any statewide race, to one that got 2% for president. Thanks to Fairvote for the link.

Similar initiatives, abolishing party nominees, injured the ability of parties to be ballot-qualified in Washington and Alaska, and the Institute’s Nevada initiative has the same flaw. The only reason the top-two initiative in California did not have a similar flaw is that the California legislature passed a bill, letting the primary vote count toward qualified status, and also easing the number of registered voters for qualified status.

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Institute for Political Innovation Launches Missouri Initiative for Top-Four — 88 Comments

  3. NOOO extremist primaries.

    EQUAL nom pets for INDIVIDUAL candidates — 1 VOTER SECRET FORMS

    PR
    APPV
    TOTSOP

  5. Has any legislator in either Alaska or Washington ever submitted bills to modify the law there?

  7. Walter, no, but that is partly because minor parties in both Washington state and Alaska have not tried to get such bills. In order for legislatures to do good things, people who care must act, and now is a good time to do that.

    Often when top-two or top-four measures go into effect, that puts minor parties in those states into a state of depression and despair.

  8. Anonymous, if that’s true, is it good or bad or otherwise notable or important for any reason?

  14. I don’t care who Bob is. I care if he’s right or wrong. I’m afraid I think he’s right. If you think otherwise please explain why.

  19. Top X systems have undeniable momentum, and 6 is a pretty stable number. It represents a six pointed star with six points, six angles, and six sides always being on top. Below, it levels everything into a playing field for happy little cattle to do the things that cattle do in their level playing fields.

  21. The happy little cattle in the level playing field are injected with many injections to keep them from being sick. It makes them very healthy and happy little cattle.

    After a while they get rounded up. They’re not real sure where they’re going, but everyone is headed there, so they just follow the herd. It’s going to be a happy place, hopefully.

    Either that, or they don’t want to be like the cattle that get out of line. Everyone can see those cattle are not happy.

  25. The red shield over my door will protect. It has the r3d t0p 6 star, which was never used by king David; another steaming h0t Ju1y.

  31. Ido/notcare.

    What do any of your preferred pronouns or who is or isn’t who have to do with whether Top Number systems have momentum or not? Because they clearly do. Whether you or I like it or not is a separate question.

  33. Bob, you’re creating an environment here that is making people uncomfortable. Please be more understanding and less bigoted. Okay?

  34. VaGina, what is your opinion of top # systems? Do you think they have momentum? Would it be fair to characterize them as sweeping the nation like a prairie wildfire?

  36. I agree. The second coming of Trump, who is the least bigoted candidate to ever run for anything, will usher in an era of Top One. The streets will be paved with gold. Trump will reign from a solid gold throne with a solid gold crown and a solid gold disco stick. Like King Midas, everything he touches will turn to gold, OK?

    THE LOSERS, ESPECIALLY ALL LEFTISTS, WILL BE CAST INTO A LAKE OF SULFUR! YEAH! TAKE THAT, LOSERS!

  37. Vagina and Dick, oops, sorry, I mean Dom, and everyone else. Please let me clarify if I was unclear. I’m specifically asking your opinions on the momentum of Top # systems, not so much their merits or what the optimal # should be.

  38. Vagina wants to be topped by a one. What about Bob? That donkey ass probably wants to be topped by a zero.

  40. “Robert Milnes on November 30, 2021 at 8:37 pm said:
    Andy,
    So does that mean you are so sick you might try Top Six/Level the Playing Field?”

    No.

  46. I did NOT post the comments on 11/30/21 at 10:20 PM and at 10:25 PM. I also did not post the comment at December 1, 2021 at 10:59.

  48. I don’t know which Andy you’re talking about. I’m Andy. If you are talking about some other Andy how do you know if he is a Jew or not? My ancestry is: father was of Italian and German descent and mother was of Polish ancestry. Stitzer is from my German grandfather. I was raised Catholic. I’m not interested in discussing my religion now, but it is not Judaism and never has been. I’m not taking orders from a troll who calls me names and makes assumptions for no reason. You are a bad person.

  49. @WZ,

    AK, CA, and WA should eliminate party qualification. Qualify presidential candidates by petition only.

  50. Well granted Andy Ramakumar, does not sound like a Jew name. But then it could have been changed through marriage, ancestral name change, or personal name change such as for religious or other personal reasons. I had an Italian grandmother whose father anglicized his. So if that’s why your assuming he is not a Jew you may need to look into it some more.

  52. I’m not aware of anybody like that who is obsessed with me. Maybe you mean somebody obsessed with this Andy Ramukumar person? I don’t know any of these people or if they even really exist.

  56. I realize it is a VERY serious thing, to call for a boycott
    in the middle of a pandemic.
    BTW, get vaccinated!
    But, yes, I believe it is that important.
    What is needed ASAP is PRESSURE! Pressure on Israel.
    They are not going to listen to anything else!
    PRESSURE FROM AMERICA!
    THAT will get their attention.
    Boycott, Divest, Sanction Israel!
    Boycott, Divest, Sanction Cooper Hospital!

  57. I just became eligible for a Booster shot. December 3.
    But I just found out I have to make an appointment.
    So, just like last time, I feel compelled to wait until I can walk in.
    Because of this situation I cannot allow myself to be a sitting duck.
    Guaranteed to be at a certain place at a certain time.

  61. Milnestein’s wary of anything involving his health care, especially involving injections, according to his blog post. Yet he shills for the so called Wuhan flu vax. Things that make you go hmmmm.

  62. Ipr may be open to all trolls now. I don’t have access to edit or add or remove anything there now, including comments. Try it, trolls. If you get the boot, it wasn’t me. There may not be anyone there who cares. Go ahead, see what you can get away with. It could be anything and everything. I’m outta there.

  63. I’m a different Paul than the last one. I don’t think anyone should be banned, except maybe me. I don’t have enough self control to stay away, and this is a huge and total waste of time. Please ban me, BAN.

    Milnes may be crazy, but so what? Loosen up your sphincter and relax. Either have fun with it or scroll past it. It’s not hard. Why’s everybody gotta be ban this, ban that. Why are people so intolerant nowadays, including the ones who never shut up about how tolerant they are?

  66. paulie,
    Austin banned me. He made that clear.
    What are you saying? There is somebody impersonating you here sat BAN?
    Why don’t you begin the New Exodus to Sinai?
    If the jews went to Sinai and stayed away from everyone, they would probably
    leave you alone.
    I wonder what sort of society, culture, political and economic system would come from that?
    Fascinating experiment.

  67. Steve, what “threats” is Milnes making? I think he’s pretty harmless. If he did make threats how would he carry them out? Come on now..you’re just being a crybully wimp.

    Also, Austin just said again today that nobody is banned right now. One of the Andy’s is already over there. Milnes, Ogle, Egyptian and others should go join him. This software won’t let me post a link but check out a rap video named Triggered by Chris Webby.

  70. I even said one of the Andy’s is over there, meaning you. Is that not enough to make it clear that I’m not you?

  71. Anyway Milnes and the Egyptian are there now too so things are looking up. Ogle should hopefully be there soon.

  72. For the political parties that believe in a “market-place of ideas” that determine whose philosophy gets a candidate elected, I do NOT see how “Top 4” is a problem! At least it is NOT “Top 2” like in CA primaries! “3rd parties” in CA have had their status on election ballots for OVER 50 YEARS NOW. ONLY a Green Party candidate got elected within that time (in a special election to the CA Assembly in 1999). If everyone is given “equal footing” on an election ballot, then the candidate with the BEST IDEAS SHOULD WIN, regardless of party label! It’s time to DESTROY the “political parties”-ESPECIALLY THE “TOP TWO”!

  73. You have to have at least Top 6 to level the playing field, otherwise it just ends up being the same old top two. Which is just a bunch of number two if you ask me. Not that you did but there it is anyways.

  79. I did NOT post the comment on December 3, 2021 at 5:29 pm. I would never say something that arrogant.

  83. Hey you gays. I’ve been like living in the Sinai for like a year and a half now, almost two years actually. The Egyptian’s don’t know about it yet. I’m hoping they don’t find out. Or that there not real real mad when they do. I’m kinda nervous about it actually. But other than that it’s been great!

  84. Uh oh. Now Austin sounds like he may turn put to be even more of a commie czar censor p00pyhead than Paul. Now that would totally royally suck in like the worse way.

  85. Rabbi Ross November 30 at 8:55 pm… that’s totally nothing like the Wuhan virus vaccine. I can’t believe you would suggest something like that could be happening. Your elders would never be so evil and unethical to do something like that to us.

    https://youtu.be/rvnE6IJZugA

  86. Rabbi Ross November 30 at 8:55 pm… that’s totally nothing like the Wuhan virus vaccine. I can’t believe you would suggest something like that could be happening. Your elders would never be so evil and unethical to do something like that to us.

    https://youtu.be/rvnE6IJZugA

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