Florida House Passes Bill that Severely Limits Contributions to Initiatives from Out-of-State Donors

On March 2, the Florida House passed HB 921, which makes it illegal for initiative committees to accept more than $3,000 from donors who don’t live in Florida. The vote was 77-39. A similar bill, SB 1352, is pending in the Senate.

An almost identical law was held unconstitutional by the Ninth Circuit in 2021. That case was Thompson v Hebdon, an Alaska case. Thanks to the Institute for Free Speech for the news about the Florida bill.


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Florida House Passes Bill that Severely Limits Contributions to Initiatives from Out-of-State Donors — 6 Comments

  1. I don’t believe that’s right. Outside donations should be permitted. Sometimes a candidate might be from an economically hit hard state and people there are broke-ass.

  2. Are they also limiting out of state donations to candidates for political offices?

  3. NATION-STATE status of the 50 States.
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    Declaration of Independence 4 July 1776, last paragraph.
    We, therefore, the Representatives of the United ***States*** of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent ***States***; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent ***States***, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent ***States*** may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor. [*** added.]
    STATES – PLURAL
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    [1777] Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union between the ***states*** of New Hampshire, Massachusetts-bay Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia. [*** added.]
    STATES – PLURAL
    Art. I. The Stile of this Confederacy shall be “The United ***States*** of America”.  [*** added.]
    STATES – PLURAL
    Art. II. Each ***state*** retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United ***States***, in Congress assembled. [See later 10th Amdt.] *** added.]
    STATES – PLURAL
    Art. III. The said ***States*** hereby severally enter into a firm league of friendship with each other, for their common defense, the security of their liberties, and their mutual and general welfare, binding themselves to assist each other, against all force offered to, or attacks made upon them, or any of them, on account of religion, sovereignty, trade, or any other pretense whatever. [*** added.]
    STATES – PLURAL
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    1783 U.S.A.- Great Britain Peace Treaty
    The definitive treaty of peace and friendship between his Britannic majesty and the United ***States*** of America, signed at Paris the 3d day of September, 1783. [*** added.]
    STATES – PLURAL
    [Preamble omitted]
    Art. I
    His Britannic majesty acknowledges the said United ***States***, viz. New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia, to be free, sovereign, and independent ***states***; that he treats with ***them*** as such, and for himself, his heirs, and successors, relinquishes all claim to the government, proprietary, and territorial rights of the same, and every part thereof.
    Arts. II-IX omitted]  [*** added.]
    STATES – PLURAL   [See the land titles in such 13 States.]
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    The 1787 U.S.A. Constitution has some NATION-State type language —
    Art. I, Sec. 10, Cl. 1 has in part- No ***State*** shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation, etc. which is treaty type language derived from the 1777 Articles of Confederation, Art. VI, para. 2.
    Art. III, Sec. 2, para. 1 — the various types of federal court jurisdiction involving the States and State citizens (as limited by the 11th Amendment).
    Art. IV, Sec. 1 (full faith and credit) and Art. IV, Sec. 2, Cl. 1 (return of alleged criminals) have treaty type language derived from the 1777 Articles of Confederation, Art. IV, paras. 4 and 3 respectively.
    Art. VII has the “establishment of this Constitution between the ***States*** so ratifying the same”. [*** added.]
    Repeat — this Constitution between the States
    STATES – PLURAL
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    Independent *foreign* NATION-States admitted into the Union — Vermont (1777-1791 Republic) in 1791 – State 14 and Texas (1836-1845 Republic) in 1845 – State 28.
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    Each of the 50 States is a NATION-STATE — like the United Kingdom, France, Germany or Spain and NOT some sort of vague village, mini-town or township somewhere out in the countryside.

    The Federal and State governments are separate sovereignties with separate and unequal legislative, executive and judicial powers. Tarble’s Case, 80 U.S. 397, 406 (1871); U.S. v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 524, 549-551 (1875); U.S. v. Wheeler, 435 U.S. 313, 316-318 (1978); Printz v. U.S., 521 U.S. 898, 918-922, 928 (1997); U.S. v. Morrison, 529 U.S. 598, 607, 615, 618 (2000) [NOT that ANY opinion of the U.S.A. Supreme Court is necessary on the subject].

    Thus — the government of/for the UNITED ***STATES*** of America is a *FEDERAL* government created for the joint benefit of the People in the NATION-STATE governments — regardless of the effects of the 1861-1865 Civil War, World War I and World War II (and A-L-L Supreme Court cases to the contrary).

    See the earlier *United* States of the Netherlands which was the model for the U.S.A. government in the 1787 Federal Convention (after an attempt to have ONE government for all 13 States failed) — i.e. expanding mainly the U.S.A. executive and judicial branches from the 1777 Articles of Confederation.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Republic
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    OUTSIDE folks – mind your own election business — State/local offices and ballot questions.

    Too many con law MORONS to count – esp in SCOTUS.

    Try to spend money in Russia / China on elections and see what happens.

  4. Thomas Jones has a very unhealthy obsession with Putin. He even mentions him in completely unrelated topics.

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