Here is a news story about Geoff Duncan, Lieutenant Governor of Georgia 2018-2022, who might possibly become the No Labels presidential candidate.
Here is a news story about Geoff Duncan, Lieutenant Governor of Georgia 2018-2022, who might possibly become the No Labels presidential candidate.
“Realistic plan to actually win” LOLOL
The most realistic thing that such a candidate could accomplish is flip the election in swing states. The Libertarian and Green Parties have already done this.
The next most realistic thing that such a candidate might do is get enough electoral votes to deadlock the election. To do this, the candidate needs to have a strong geographical base somewhere. The last candidate who could have done that was George Wallace in 1968, and even he didn’t carry enough states to do it
The least most realistic thing such a candidate could do is win the election.There would have to be a severe fracture within one of the major parties, such that that party was actually fielding competing candidates, for the candidate of a new party to do that The last candidate to do this was Lincoln. Teddy Roosevelt also tried this in 1912 with his Progressive Party, but came up short. Of course, in 1912, the fracture was in the Republican Party itself.
GETTING IN HERE FIRST BEFORE THE crAZy MAKES HIS APPEARANCE. NO LABELS = “NOBODY EVER HEARD OF HIM” PARTY.
THIS IS A PURGE LIST
I AM A SHOUTING TROLL MORON
Duncan could be an interesting choice because he was a statewide office holder in a swing state. Could he create a large enough “base” with independent voters in swing states actually to carry one or two, and deadlock the election?
Quick, name the lieutenant governor of your state. Now name the last one. Now name one from a different state. You may as well flip open a phone book. Carrying states? Fantasyland. This is egg mcmuffin territory.
There’s no swing states this year. We’re headed for a Trump landslide. Hide and watch. I own property in Georgia and Florida and my residence has switched back and forth, so I’ve heard of him before, but even so I can’t think of any time in the last year or two that his name crossed my mind for even half a second.
I was surprised, re the picture that Politico had with its No Labels story a few days ago, that JoePa Lieberman his own self didn’t jump out of his chair and say “I’ll DO it!”
His campaign slogan? “I will be a better genocidalist!”
I thought it would be “our octogenarian derp state globalist is even more derp state globalist than the dimocrap octogenarian”…wait, too long…”Israel first”? “Make Kiev Great Again”?
“Isreal First” would be good, too!
And, dang, Geoff Duncan went to the Trump school of permantanning, didn’t he? That shite probably affects some brain cells.
If you’ve ever watched the jersey shore tv program, there’s a case to be made for that. Let’s call it the orange theory for now (not the gym).
There is a lot of dissatisfaction among independent voters in swing states. Many of them might be willing to take a chance on someone new. Who heard of Bill Clinton or Barack Obama before they ran for President? IMO, most of those swing states are still in play.
Go away Stock. Your trolling comments are as retarded as AZ’s.
Wanna bet? I’ll put my money where my mouth is. Trump will win.
How many names does Stock troll under?
There’s a red under my bed named Robert Stock the devil head, I see him everywhere I go, I think he’s everyone I know, I see him when I go to sleep, I pray the Lord my soul to keep.
SocraticGadfly and Taran are two names speculated to be Stock. Someone else said AZ too but I highly doubt it.
You’re the one trolling under lots of names. What’s your proof that Stock does it? Evidence? Facts? Anything? Maybe he does. Maybe not. For now I’ll go with “show me on the doll where Mr. Stock touched you”…
Speculated by you. Someone else was you. There’s been not one shred of evidence any of your accusations are true.
Gadfly and Stock used the same photo in their profile. This was proven. All three heavily promote communism and want their opponents to die. The writing styles are similar.
AZ is completely different.
Could they all be connected to Paul? Where is Milnes when you need him?
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Gadfly is not Stock. If you need his real name, its not exactly hard to find. Who is Paul? Paul W. Russell? Who is Milnes? Stock said the profile with a picture was an impersonation. Millions of people promote communism. You might expect some of them on a board that deals with minor parties.
I have nothing to do with whatever nonsense y’all are talking about.
Is Skeptical also Stock?
Please?
Everyone and everything is Stock. Even photos are Stock. If stores have anything at all, it’s in stock. If you own any part of any company? Stock. Making soup? STOCK!
Just me is also Stock. That’s been proven.
Wrong. Just me is Gadfly, who is not stock. Proof requires evidence, not just assertion.
Gadfly admits to trolling under multiple names. The truth is starting to unravel. Eventually he will admit he is Stock.
Stock may or may not be skeptical. But Skeptical isn’t Stock. Regardless of who you think I am or might be, you can verify my claims, unlike yours.
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WILL A BAN BIDEN/TRUMP TROLL MORON REPLACE ARTIST PIGCASSO ???
He’s verifiably not Stock. You’re just embarrassing yourself by asserting repeatedly something that anyone can disprove by googling for a minute or two. Where did he admit to trolling?
Richard should change the websites name to Stock Access News.
Artist Z?
AZ is a bot, not a moron. Morons are those who don’t get that it is a bot.
Stock is my friend and brother.
Gadfly is Stock. So is Taran. So is Just me. No doubt about it
ABC IS FAKE NEWS. BUILD THE WALL!
Assertion isn’t evidence. In this case your assertion is easily disproved by anyone who cares. Repetition is also not evidence.
Stock you are fired!
Who is Robert Stock?
I’ve been wondering the same thing, particularly since some idiot who can’t seem to remember what their mama named them keeps insisting I’m this person I never even heard of. My mother, Tara, named me Taran.
I hate how people mispronounce my name.
Geoff Duncan name recognition above or below 1%?
With No Labels, RFK Jr., Jill Stein, and Libertarians running plus all the rest.
What % do you think the 3rd parties will get in the coming election ?
Those of you who are not voting for uncommitted ought to be committed.
Stop the game “Taran”.
Bobby, very hard to say at this point. Libertarians look exceptionally weak this time. I’m predicting the lowest raw numbers and percentage for them since at least 1984. In terms of ranking, I’m guessing 6th or 7th. I’d have to refresh my memory, but I think that may well be the worst placing for them since 1972.
Kennedy has potential. I don’t see Perot 1992. Maybe Perot 1996, or at least better than Johnson 2016 or Nader 2000. But he could also shoot himself in the foot, with plenty of outside help.
No Labels has predictably fizzled. Duncan is only a rumor. At this point, I still think the safest bet is no candidate for them. If Duncan runs, he’ll probably do a bit better than Egg McMuffin, but only due to better ballot access.
Jill Stein has organization experience and a good list. I think she’ll do at least as well as she did in 2016.
Cornell West gets press. I’m not sure what his finances are. He has yet to prove himself in ability to secure ballot access except for already balloted one state parties, or in any aspect of campaign organization besides media outreach.
My impression of the constipation party is that they continue to be in decline. One or two explicitly socialist parties may do better than in recent years or decades, but nothing on the order of Norman Thomas or Eugene Debs days.
Overall, Trump will beat Biden, with or without other candidates, and their net effect will only help him run up his margin.
Addendum: Stein will not beat Nader 2000 in raw votes or percentage.
Thanks Paul for you detail
Paul
If they are meeting with Geoff Duncan for the VP spot that would be okay. Certainly Perot & Wallace VP’s likely worst. However if they are considering him for President you would have to wonder why even run a candidate. Only would be known in Georgia but would still get trounced in that state even if he got every Haley vote in the state.Would require huge money just to get him known anywhere else
Re Paul W:
1. I expect Stein to do worse than 2016.
2. I expect West to be a nothingburger.
(I personally will vote de la Cruz by write-in, in all likelihood.)
3. “Constipation Party” is about right.
4. Bill Stodden of SPUSA impresses me even less than Stein or West.
5. Libertarians? The Mises Mice have caused it to implode. Go look for news on a new-starting “Liberal Party” at Independent Political Report. Or ask Winger if Mises is in “Little House on the Prairie.” Yeah, it’s gratuitous, Richard, but there you are.
The story said president. I hadn’t considered he might be VP. I agree, why even bother? He’s only well known in Georgia among people who pay an above average amount of attention to politics.
I think they’re shooting for someone who was previously a republican paired with someone who was a democrat. And I think probably the republican in the top spot since allegedly they want to hurt Trump.
Maybe they are talking to others but this one being leaked speaks to what sort of leaving they are down to. In the end they’ll most likely come to that same conclusion, why bother. Unless they do significantly better quality wise, and that’s looking unlikely.
As for Hailey votes. That’s not how this work’s. Some Hailey votes will go to Biden, especially in the states which didn’t have closed primaries. Some will go to Trump, with varying degrees of reluctance. Some will stay home, some will vote third party, write in, etc. There’s not some uniform bloc Hailey vote.
Wallace and Perot had a war general and admiral for VP, which I think is a better platform to run from than former lieutenant governor. That’s not even as good as former governor, like for example Gary Johnson.
Considering what Biden, Trump, dnc, rnc, associated superpacs etc will spend, getting him well known is not nearly enough. Even Bloomberg would feel significant financial pain trying to self finance Against all that , and we saw how that worked out for him.
The past decade or so amply illustrates that the alleged or former center is a mirage. The popular support is not there. It was a fake center to begin with..maybe the center between DC, wall street and Rockefeller center, but that’s about it.
Gadfly, why do you expect Stein to do worse? You might be right, but I’d be interested in your reasons. You are quite possibly correct about West.
The liberal party is not contesting the presidency this year. I think they have a huge hill to climb and have made things harder for themselves with a name that means progressive , not classical liberal, to the vast majority of regular people. Political junkies (I’m one) regularly vastly overestimate how much most people know or care about this sort of thing.
Part of the problem the libertarians are having is internal dissent. But I think a lot of it is that many libertarians are actually strongly supporting Trump, not anyone seeking their own party nomination.
I should mention a lot of them are also supporting Kennedy. There’s a chance he might get their nomination, but I’m guessing most likely not. They are too ideologically rigid…although…bob Barr? Maybe not so rigid after all.
Gadfly is troll moron Robert K Stock. Ignore his communist bullshit.
He’s actually a lawyer from Texas who used to be in the Green Party. Stop trolling, “stop” trolling. What is your obsession with Stock, anyway? Your multiple names are the only ones I ever see obsess about him or claim he uses multiple names. Seriously, did he have sex with your mother or something ?
Paul … fatigue with her mixed with GP fade? Stein will be a three-time “retread,” and only stepped in because West stepped out, and the GP doesn’t have much of a bench. Her two party-certified opponents are not A-listers within the party by any means, and on the party as a whole, I think it’s beyond it’s “best by” date.
And, I didn’t mention Bob Jr. in my previous comment. He may grab some Trumpers upset that Trump is (for pure ego) tooting a pro-vax horn again. Other than that, I don’t see his appeal.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-effort-stop-illegal-immigrants-202635130.html
GOP effort to stop illegal immigrants being counted for House districts, Electoral College shot down in Senate
Fox News
Sat, March 9, 2024 at 3:26 PM EST
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INVADERS CONTINUE TO BE COUNTED IN CENSUS FOR GERRYMANDER DISTS — ESP RED COMMIE DONKEY DISTS
You may well be correct regarding Stein and the Greens. I think you’re wrong about Kennedy. I’m going to guess most of his appeal tilts left , to Democrats and Democrat leaners who are disappointed with Biden, aren’t impressed with any other left party or candidates, perhaps look back with nostalgia on his father and uncle, etc.
He’s polling pretty well early, has plenty of money and name recognition, and is making reasonable ballot access progress. Of course, there’s plenty of opportunities to screw up, but I gave you my best guess assessment of where he’ll end up, together with that caveat. I don’t think he hurts Trump nearly as much as he does Biden, although admittedly he takes some from both.
I don’t see him coming in below 3rd , unless no labels label scores a much bigger name than Duncan, which looks unlikely and getting more unlikely each day.
He would probably be wise to avoid the temptation to short cut ballot access with a libertarian nomination. Granted, it would save him money, but he has plenty of money, and the libertarian label doesn’t get nearly as many votes as independent, all other things being equal.
I don’t know if Kennedy will be smart enough to avoid that easy glide. If he doesn’t, it will quite possibly bite him in the ass – the lnc will rescind the nomination, or one of their downballot candidates will generate headlines for centering his campaign around holocaust denial, or the Twitter team will say something really stupid and offensive, etc, etc.
I’m expressing my actual opinions and using only the name my mother gave me, a variant of the one hers gave her.
The childish troll entity using psychological projection to accuse me of what it actually does appears to be trying to use fascist bully and intimidation tactics to silence opposition.
The idiot child really does need to go outside and play, or pay attention to its teachers during remote learning classes. If it were to succeed in monopolizing what opinions are allowed here, it wouldn’t do anything whatsoever to stop or slow down the inevitability of workers revolution.
Perhaps its failure in the real world makes it assign vastly exaggerated value to its online turf where it can play tough bully, unlike the real world playground where it gets its butt kicked and clowned every day.
That’s the basic psychological profile of fascist alt right troll bully nerds who plague message boards everywhere. They nest in the internet because in the real world they’re losers and wimps. But the real world is where real change happens.
Message boards like this and thousands of others aren’t good for much besides letting off some steam while sitting on the toilet. But, it’s as close to a real life as fascist right wing trolls have or ever will.
Just stop it Stock. The fact you are this desperate to try and hide your identity is pathetic.
You’re the only one trying to hide your identity here. You still have not shown on the doll where Stock touched you.
Some people are saying that as a Georgian, Duncan could affect the election there. (There are only six or seven states where the outcome is in doubt and you all know which they are.) But I have seen others say that No Labels will not be on the ballot in Georgia because ballot access is very hard there. Is that true? Thanks to anyone who answers.
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ONE MORE MONARCH POLL — MERE 8 MORE MONTHS OF JUNK POLLS
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J. Don’t know all the details of procedure in Georgia but RFK Jr. has already collected enough signatures to qualify so it can’t be that bad
https://electionlawblog.org/?p=141893
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WAITING FOR TYRANT TRUMP PARDONS ???
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ANOTHER REGIME DOWN IN FLAMES
ZILLION MORE *REFUGEES* INVADING USA SHORTLY ???
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I would like to see any minor party be competitive. I don’t care if it’s “The Yankee Doodle wave the flag and I’m a dumb American Party”.
J, this is not 2016 or 2020. Georgia and other former swing states will be solidly Trump.
Georgia presidential ballot access isn’t all that hard. It’s districts that are difficult in Georgia.
This guy’s more obscure than Evan McMullin.
Wasn’t he in a heavy metal band at one time?
Duncan’t
Bob: are you thinking of Geoff Tate?
They need someone credible, not some nobody.
Walter Ziobro doesn’t seem to understand how deep the fracture in the GOP is.
The Lt. Governor of Maryland is Aruna Miller. Before her, it was Blake Rutherford. He was preceded by Anthony Brown, who was preceded by Michael Steele.
The Lt. Governor of Virginia is Winsome Sears.
Next.
The Mises Caucus is the best thing that’s happened to the LP in a long time. They’ve rescued it from teh crazies like Vermin Supreme.
Tim, congratulations. I’m willing to bet the percentage of voters who can do that without looking it up is at best in the low single digits, if not a fraction of 1%.
Sam: I’m not sure.
Tim Phares: they’re not going to get anyone credible, hence probably no ticket. Also, there’s not much split in the GOP. The people leaning towards pre-Trump leadership are a small and diminishing faction. Well on their way to dodo bird status.
Tim: the libertarian party is past its expiration date. Hence forward, it will go the way of the Reform Party, Prohibition Party, myriad socialist parties, etc.