The Arizona Green Party is ballot-qualified, and state law requires it to nominate by primary. There are three individuals seeking the Green Party nomination for U.S. Senate whom the Green Party believes are not sincere supporters of the party. One is believed to be sympathetic to the Republican Party. He is believed to be motivated by a desire to injure the eventual Democratic nominee.
Another sham candidate is believed to be sympathetic to the Democratic Party, and if he gets the Green nomination, he will withdraw.
A third sham candidate is running on a platform that completely contradicts the Green Party’s core values.
The party sent out a message to its members on March 27, asking them not to sign primary petitions for any of the three. There is a bona fide Green also seeking the nomination.
Minor parties in the U.S. are better off when states allow them to nominate by convention, as this example illustrates.
NOOO CAUCUSES / PRIMARIES/ CONVENTIONS FOR BALLOT ACCESS
ONLY EQUAL NOM PETS/ FILING FEES FOR BALLOT ACCESS
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PR
APPV
TOTSOP
They’d be better off not having to nominate at all. In the rare event they win some office, they can internally pick their officeholders any way they want. There should never be any reason for a party to pick officeholders unless they win office.
USA SENATE — SEVERE MINORITY RULE SEMI-FIXED GERRYMANDER
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ABOLISH IT OR PR IN IT
This is completely off topic but maybe Richard will respond. Now that Nicole Shanahan is running for elected office as VP will she be able to spend without limit on the campaign?
US Senate: repeal 17th amendment.
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When candidates use or loan their personal funds for campaign purposes, they are making contributions to their campaigns. Unlike other contributions, these candidate contributions are not subject to any limits.
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TYRANTS BIDEN/TRUMP SPENDING ANY OF THEIR OWN CASH ??? DUH.
Term limits: she can spend how much she wants.
White Men Can Trump: Si, Se Puede (yes, we can). Also, you are correct. Repeal it!
Repeal the 17th on the way to the Max Plan!
BEFORE 17 AMDT-
TOTAL BRIBES OF MINORITY RULE GERRYMANDER STATE LEGISLATURES – GILDED AGE TOTAL ROT.
I agree with Roman Salute.
Roman Salute is exactly correct. I also agree with White Men Can Trump and Alien Invaders Are Poisoning Our Nation’s Blood.
I would sign for the Republican one if I lived there.
Before the 17th amendment passed, state legislatures did a terrible job of choosing US Senators. Frequently there were dedlocks and a state might be without any US senator for months. Worse, there were instances in which US Senate candidates bribed state legislators so as to increase their chances of being appointed.
Thanks for providing the candidate names, Richard.
From this website, only two (2) Green candidates are listed: https://politics1.com/az.htm
Arturo Hernandez and Mike Norton. The link for Hernandez doesn’t seem to work and there isn’t one for Norton.
Who are the other two candidates?
PS: Well, this post IS about Arizona, so let’s have three cheers for the typical ranting crAZy posts.
It is unrealistic to expect that the 17th Amendment can be outright repealed. There wouldn’t be enough states to support it.
But, you can pretty much get the same result in a state by amending the election law to allow legislative caucuses of each party to make Senatorial nominations directly to the ballot. Most likely, the party that controls the legislature in a state will nominate a candidate that can win the election.
A more meaningful Constitutional reform would be to allow states to recall their members of Congress. Even when state legislatures elected US Senators, they could not recall them.
A constitutional amendment allowing states to recall their members in Congress would probably be widely supported in the states. The problems is, it would probably not pass Congress, itself. It would have to be proposed by a national constitutional convention.
It would be fun to experiment with popular votes done by vocal affirmation for a while. Imagine if in 2024 you had to report to your polling location on the 5th of November and state publicly the names of the candidates you’re supporting.
Per Winger, the 17th Amendment was passed in part because Montana mining and other interests buying off a majority of the entire Montana Lege.
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And, insincere GP Senate candidates in Aridzona? Shades of Kyrsten Sinema long ago, when she was an ultimately fake Green.
@WZ,
Congress may specify the manner of election of Senators. So let’s elaborate on your scheme. 10% of the members of the legislature can place a candidate on the ballot.
If no candidate gets a majority in the popular election repeat.
If Stock hates repealing the 17th, that means it’s an excellent idea.
So Richard, who is the “bona fide Green?” The AZ Green Party has their endorsement of Eduardo Quintana (D) on their website. But he’s a Democrat. https://www.azgp.org/candidates
HAVING TOP PARTY HACKS DECIDE ON *BONA FIDE* HACKS = MORE MONARCH/OLIGARCH ROT
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NOOO PRIMARIES
EQUAL BALLOT ACCESS PETS/FEES
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LESS NEED FOR RECALLS IF SHORT TERMS – MAX LEGIS/EXEC 2 YEARS AND PR / APPV
SO THIS MORNING MIKE NORTONS’CAMPAIGN REACHED OUT FOR SUPPORT,I ASKED 2 FUNDAMENTAL QUESTIONS RE: POLICY,AND CRICKETS.
IF ANY CANDIDATE CAN’T EXPLAIN THEIR POSITION,WHY ARE THEY RUNNG?
Term Limits NY, GOOD IDEA.
@ JR:
i don’t think that you need a Congressional mandate for any state to try your idea. All that matters is that the voters have the final say, per A17
The purpose of the Senate is to represent the States. The 17th amendment disfigured the Constitutional design.
There are much worse things than a Senate seat being vacant for a few months, which can happen even now.
As for bribery, the current much worse form of (legal!) bribery of voters by politicians includes entitlement, earmark, and special interest spending and legislation, along with swelling the national debt. There’s also foreign aid and even military intervention to appease special interests.
It would make much more sense to allow minor parties to nominate their candidates by convention in order to get rid of ballot access restrictions such as paying a qualifying fee or by petition for each candidate like is required in Florida.
This isn’t the 19th century. The possibility of legislative bribery is an exceedingly poor excuse for the horrific violent gang rape and sodomy done to the Founders’ constitutional design with the abhorrent 17th.
EACH STATE IS EQUAL WHEN IT SUPPLIES EQUAL TAXES AND TROOPS-
BRAIN DEAD FIXATION WITH ARBITRARY CARVE UP OF NORTH AMERICA BY BRITS FROM 1607 VA ONWARD AREAS.
ESP MINI RI, MINI DE, ETC. – HARD TO FIND ON A WORLD MAP.
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SINCE WHEN DO MINORITY RULE REGIMES VOLUNTEER TO BECOME MAJORITY RULE REGIMES ???
USA- NONSTOP MINORITY RULE GERRYMANDER REGIMES SINCE 1776 >>>
STATE/USA COPIES OF OLDE ROTTED UK REGIME — WITHOUT OPEN BRIT TYPE LORDS/OLIGARCHS — NOW BEHIND CLOSED DOORS
Each state is a sovereign nation state.
Nominating by convention does seem like a better idea, at least for smaller parties.
Regarding Arizona Greens:
A-Primary is only available to party members and independents
B-It takes place on July 30 this year (the regular primary, not the presidential one)
C-AZ Green Party says they will not endorse/oppose candidates until as late as August 17
Given the insincere candidates, they might want to do C before B instead of after.
Better than voting by party and internally picking officeholders if they win?
@WZ,
It would provide more consistency to have a congressional mandate, just as there is a uniform election date.
When the abominable 17th is repealed, a uniform election date won’t be needed.
UNIFORM ELECTION DATE —
REDUCE ODDS FOR STATE-TO-STATE BRIBES/THREATS/BALLOT BOX STUFFING/ETC –
ESP IN MARGINAL STATES/DISTS
Repeal the 17th and let the legislators do their job. The Senate should represent the States, the House should represent the People.
I am Donald J Trump and I ask for you to buy my asbestos Bibles.
You are Edward TJ Brown and you are asking us to buy your bullshit, but no one is buying it.
@Term Limits NY: Aside from all the other reasons to object to voting out loud (for example, the fact that most people prefer a secret ballot), keep in mind that we don’t just vote for a president. In my area, for instance, we often have elections with dozens of judges on the ballot who are up for retention. I don’t want to go to the polls and have to recite “For retention: Adam Aardvark YES, Bonnie Barton YES, Carlos Cerritos YES, Dennis Dummy NO,” and so on, and so on, and so on.
Then vote by party. And power without accountability is dangerous. Voting is power.
I like underage girls, with big butts.
I forgot to use my real name.