On March 20, the plaintiff in the North Carolina case over whether voters can take a picture of their own voted ballot filed a notice of appeal. Earlier the U.S. District Court had upheld the ban. Hogarth v Bell, e.d., 5:24cv-481. The Fourth Circuit number hasn’t been assigned yet.
Is that Susan Hogarth?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kdemFfbS5H0
That lesbian commie is still around?
She’s a lesbian? Is she hot?
CAMERAS AND BALLOTS SINCE 1840S – 1840S ???
Seems like a first amendment issue. Why shouldn’t someone be able to take a picture of their own ballot? Should someone not be able to say for whom they voted? Even if they are lying, so what?
ELP: Yes
LL: She’s married to a man last time I checked, which was not that recently. I don’t know why Fred said she’s a lesbian or a communist. As far as I know she’s a straight libertarian.
WZ: some people have concerns about people potentially being bribed or blackmailed or threatened into voting a certain way versus another if they can prove how they voted.
But logically, if that was the concern, we wouldn’t allow mail ballots, because anyone can stand over your shoulder while you fill out a mail ballot to see how you vote, or even fill it out for you and just have you sign it.
So, I think it’s not really a valid concern anymore. To whatever extent it ever was or wasn’t valid, any of the bad stuff that could happen can easily happen already when almost everyone has a camera on their phone if they vote in person and can easily vote absentee if someone wants to track how they vote.
We may as well get rid of secret ballots since there’s no way to keep them secret as far as any of that goes.
They should not allow mail ballots. There should also be no ballots, thus nothing to take pictures of.
As x pointed out, any considerable advantages of secret voting have been rendered obsolete by modern technology.
So, the best system unless and until some version of standing count vote by party only can be tried would be verbally voting in front of election officials, videotaped and simultaneously uploaded to a live video broadcast with archived cloud backup, so that anyone who wants to can verify, during the vote or at any time afterwards, that the vote count is exactly correct.
The count can be displayed on the screen with the broadcast so anyone can follow along. Ideally, you would be able to click on the count – during voting or after – to see how each individual voter voted, and if further interested, click on a name and watch them vote out loud.
This would make it impossible to cast ineligible votes or miscount the votes cast, insuring maximum trust in the vote results.