Massachusetts State Representative Andy Vargas Op-Ed Says Top-Two Has Been a Failure in California and Washington

Massachusetts State Representative Andy Vargas (D-Haverhill) writes that voters should not vote for the top-two initiative, because if it passes, it would bring the same problems that it has brought to California and Washington.


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Massachusetts State Representative Andy Vargas Op-Ed Says Top-Two Has Been a Failure in California and Washington — 18 Comments

  1. You haven’t run any stories about how it’s polling recently. Is there a reason for that? I’m going to take a look at polls.

  2. Polls don’t indicate a reason. All the ones I’m finding show the yes side leading consistently, but the margin between them seems to be shrinking, meaning undecided voters are breaking more to the no side over time despite the yes side being much better funded.

    I would think Richard Winyer, who is obviously on the no side, would highlight that trend, not bury it.

  3. Left wing states are more favorably disposed towards a one party system of government

  4. If California, Washington State and Massachusetts had no votes in congress and no presidential electors we would all be much better off.

  5. “Top two primary” = one party system with meaningless party preference ballot labels (or no paety labels, although that hasn’t been tried yet)

    No wonder left wing states are the first ones to adopt it

  6. any lovers of having a civil WAR II —

    left coast vs middle vs east coast

    with perhaps 300 million DEAD ???
    ———–
    PR >>> above 3 new regimes ???
    appv
    totsop

  7. There wasn’t a civil war I, or civil war II already occurred over 160 years ago, since it was precisely the same type of war as the American Revolution, a war for regional independence. The only difference was in the outcome.

  8. Q,

    Louisiana differed in the critical detail that there was a runoff only if someone didn’t get majority in the first round, which makes that first round a real election and not just a qualifying event.

  9. Proportional representation and approval voting are terrible ideas. Why has been eXplained ad nauseam previously.

    If anyone other than AZ spambot wants to know why, just ask and I’ll explain yet again. I’m open to being convinced I’m wrong, but not easily, if anyone shows an equally open mindset.

    Total separation of powers is good in theory, but bad in practice, because complicating government makes it worse and the separation doesn’t end up achieving what it’s supposed to.

    Instead, I propose government that is greatly simplified and reduced in both scale and scope, with strong protections to keep it from ever expanding outside of that very limited scope.

  10. The AZ BOT doesn’t ever learn anything from explanation, and I don’t know if anyone who does is reading and hasn’t already seen it, but if you are, please ask. I’ll endeavour to respond at least as respectfully and with at least as much of an open mind as you exhibit. It can go on for one round or several, or, as seems more likely given past experience here, not at all.

  11. Google is evil

    Google says it’s okay to want literally anyone other than a white doctor

    Not The Bee

  12. How would a state print its top two ballot if both candidates had the same name?

  13. @DFR,

    In Texas, the Election Code provides an answer:

    Sec. 52.032. CANDIDATES WITH SAME OR SIMILAR SURNAMES. (a) If two or more candidates for the same office have the same or similar surnames, each of those candidates may have printed on the ballot a brief distinguishing description or title, not to exceed four words, following the candidate’s name.

    (b) The description or title may only refer to the candidate’s place of residence or present or former profession, occupation, or position. However, the description or title may not refer to a public office.

  14. That was an impressively nonsensical word salad even for the AZ SPAMBOT

    MEANWHILE @ WINGER

    Richard Winger

    There is zero technical knowledge required.

    If you can log into wp-admin poke around settings and see discussion, enter n0tthebee.c0m but with os instead of zeroes under always allowed and it’s that simple.

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