Andrew Yang has a podcast, and on November 11, he hosted Lee Drutman for an hour and seven minutes. Here is a link to the Yang podcasts. To hear Drutman, choose “All politics is tribal”, which is currently second from the top. Drutman is a political scientist and a supporter of proportional representation for the United States; he is also the author of “Breaking the Two-Party Doom Loop: the case for Multiparty Democracy in America.”
Yang supports top-five primaries. At the 44 minute mark, he said to Drutman that because the movement for proportional representation for the U.S. seems so slow, perhaps Drutman agrees that it is better at this time to work for top-five primaries. But Drutman said “no”, and that it would make things worse. Drutman said we should eliminate primaries. He also said that it is socially useful to give parties control over whom they nominate.
This conversation is very important. Kudos to Yang for hosting Drutman, and kudos to Drutman for his message.