This article by Tosten Burks in Good Magazine says that the outlook that more state legislatures will approve the national popular vote plan is favorable. The article says this is because many Republican-majority state legislatures are warming up to the plan, because these states are not “swing” states and as a result, these non-swing states get mostly ignored in the presidential campaign.
Good Magazine was founded in 2006.
I’ll believe it when I see one of those Republican states pass it.
In NYS Perot UWSA wanted to encourage top two party elections by empowering the registered non affiliated to participate in primary nominating process and essentially allow the top two parties to fuse with the non affiliated advisory primary voting participation
Rosario v Rockefeller was changing registration enrollment lock-box but forcing the federal court to always allow non-affiliated primary participation in NYS will always be in play for cumc potus electoral college
I still think it’s more likely to pass by initiative than through any GOP legislatures. I would say more likely than either that Dem statehouses start passing it, but only one– Oregon — now has Dem governor + legislature but has not already joined the NPVIC.
NO uniform definition of Elector-Voter in the NPV scheme from Hell.
i.e. one more scheme by the usual suspects for an unconstitutional statutory fix when a const amdt is required.
Good Magazine: propaganda organ of some social justice warriors living off of daddy’s millions.
National popular vote via state compact: never gonna happen.
WJC fixed rigged the 1996 NYS presidential election based in new info.
I was on the NYS statewide ballot that year 1996 as a Perot elector
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A New York State of mind
One thing that hasn’t been mentioned much is the effect of NPV on swing states. A swing state is not likely to vote for NPV because that could dilute it’s decisive power. If NPV passes, it would make sense for a swing state to stay out of the compact, and adopt Instant Runoff Voting (IRV) for President instead. That way, when no candidate gets 50% in that state, the votes are transferred until one does. Then, that final vote tally is the certified vote that’s used in NPV, and the transferred votes in the swing state could effect the national vote total one way or the other.
Walt, why do you obsess over instant run-off? Approval Voting would be a better option. Instant Run-Off will always elect moderate candidates…. ALWAYS; even if that’s not what a majority of the country wants. Moderate candidates are always the second and third options of the more polarized voters. Each successive vote transfer, people’s votes go to progressively more and more moderate positioned candidates, as those are the “safe” back-ups.
@ AMcCarrick:
I have considered approval voting, and, forgive me if I seem condescending, but I think its too complex for the average person. It’s easier for the average voter to rank his or her choices 1,2,3. than make a complex decision of ranking each candidate on a scale. Maybe I’m wrong.
And, also, I think IRV is the best way to resolve Presidential elections. It can be adopted state by state, with or without NPV, and it would provide that the electors in each state end up with a majority winner, which I believe most people would like. Also, it’s probably best in the long run for the US if a moderate candidate become President, over a more radical one. In this election, it’s probable that Clinton would have won with IRV, although she would NOT have been my second choice.
NPV hired former Republican legislators to lobby Republican states over the last few years. They also took legislators on all-expenses-paid trips to places like the Ritz-Carlton in Puerto Rico. All that to say, no wonder they had nibbles in targeted red states. But NPV’s message was that the Electoral College had a “blue wall” that meant Republicans would not win anot her presidential election for a generation. That idiotic rhetoric, along with backlash for their lavish pay-to-play tactics, make NPV weaker than ever.
@Walt Ziobro: I think what you’re describing as “approval voting” is actually range voting. In approval voting, you just get to mark your ballot for each candidate you approve of, and whoever is approved of by the most voters wins.
I’ve found this a good overview of a decent variety of voting methods — or systems, if you prefer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_system
It even has a chart comparing some of the leading contenders on how well they deal with potential problems.
Advanced students — Condorcet Head to Head math with a tiebreaker if no Condorcet Winner CW– perhaps App.V. or Sum place votes.
Emergency math to save Democracy in the USA —
P.R. and nonpartisan App.V.
Republicans would have to weigh additional attention for their states (maybe – and probably only if they contain major media markets) one on hand versus…
In the last 25+ years (1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016) the Republicans have only had a plurality of the national popular vote once out of seven times, in 2004, but a plurality of the electoral votes two additional times, in 2000 and 2016. And the only time they had a plurality of the popular vote of those seven elections, in 2004, it was only because they had an incumbent thanks to the electoral college from 2000. Indeed, of the three times they wrestled the presidency away from Democrats (as opposed to defending their title) since 1980 – 1980 was the last time that it was not thanks to the electoral college. 2000 and 2016 were only thanks to the electoral college. 1980 had high inflation and unemployment, gas lines and a hostage crisis. It was also a long time ago, with many demographic changes since then, most of them not to the advantage of Republicans.
Given all this, it’s clear that getting rid of the electoral college would cut off most of their avenues to the presidency. That’s not something they will just give up to get a little more attention in a few states.
NONPARTISAN elections for Prez/VP —
Difficult ONLY for the EVIL armies of top robot party HACKS in the Fed and State regimes.
i.e. both main gangs will be blasting a Prez for his/her actions / non-actions in all sorts of subject areas
— with the Prez blasting back that both main gangs are gerrymander HACKS.