On March 14, an important vote occurred in the U.S. Senate on whether to disapprove of President Trump’s declaration of emergency spending on a border wall. There are 53 Republicans. Twelve of them (22.6%) voted against President Trump.
Advocates of open primaries are constantly saying that open primaries produce more moderate office-holders. However, Republicans nominated in closed primary states were approximately twice as likely to vote against the President, than Republicans nominated in primaries in which independent voters may participate.
Fifteen Republican Senators are elected in states in which the Republican primary is closed. Of those 15, 6 voted against President Trump, or 40.0%.
Fourteen Republican Senators are elected in states in which the Republican primary is semi-closed. Of those 14, two voted against President Trump, or 14.3%.
Twenty-four Republican Senators are elected in states in which the Republican primary is open. Of those 24, four voted against President Trump, or 16.7%.
Abolish the super-BAAAAD minority rule USA Senate.
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PR in ALL legislative bodies.
AppV.
TOTAL Separation of Powers.
I-1 All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.
I-9-7 No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.
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One result of the CENTURIES of POWER struggles in ye old England — between Brit Parliament and monarchs — over CONTROL of regime money.
Delayed reporting of in/out money in crisis times — war/rebellion.
The USA Const. AIN’T a political suicide pact — except for TYRANT MORONS in certain places.
No surprise if SCOTUS takes EMERGENCY action in pending alleged *national emergency*
— ie possible NO vacations for SCOTUS staff — ALL hands on deck stuff.
In case anyone wants the countdown…here are the Republican Senators nominated in closed primaries: Marco Rubio, Rick Scott, Mike Crapo, Jim Risch, Jerry Moran, Pat Roberts, Mitch McConnell, Rand Paul, Jim Inhofe, James Lankford, Pat Toomey, John Thune, Mike Rounds, Mike Lee, and Mitt Romney. Of these, the six who voted against President Trump are Rubio, Moran, Paul, Toomey, Lee, and Romney.
The Republicans nominated in semi-closed primaries: Lisa Murkowski, Dan Sullivan, Martha McSally, Cory Gardiner, Joni Ernst, Chuck Grassley, Susan Collins, Deb Fischer, Ben Sasse, Richard Burr, Thom Tillis, Shelley Capito, John Barrasso, and Mike Enzi. Of these, the two who voted against President Trump are Murkowski and Collins.
The Republicans nominated in open primaries: Richard Shelby, John Boozman, Tom Cotton, Johnny Isakson, David Perdue, Todd Young, Mike Braun, Bill Cassidy, John Kennedy, Cindy Hyde-Smith, Roger Wicker, Roy Blunt, Josh Hawley, Steve Daines, Kevin Cramer, John Hoeven, Rob Portman, Lindsey Graham, Tim Scott, Lamar Alexander, Marsha Blackburn, John Cornyn, Ted Cruz, and Ron Johnson. Of these, the four who voted against President Trump are Wicker, Blunt, Portman, and Alexander
MUCH of world history is rotted POWER MAD CONTROL FREAK MONARCHS VS OTHERS —
RECENT MONSTERS – BRIT MONARCHS HENRY VIII, CHARLES I, JAMES II, GEORGE III
FRANCE NAPOLEON
GERMANY BISMARCK, KAISER BILL WWI, HITLER WW II
RUSSIA LENIN, STALIN, PUTIN
CHINA MAO, XI ?
JAPAN HIROHITO
BORG SPACE – THE QUEEN THING
EACH FREAK HAS HAD LOTS OF MORON SUPPORTERS.
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TOTAL SEPARATION OF POWERS
I find this fascinating! Riveting! Positively germane to life in this galaxy!
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Count the millions of DEAD / injured due to the POWER MAD CONTROL FREAK MONARCHS.
ANTI-CHRIST III not quite yet open for ALL to see ???
— or defeated in 1945 ???
You are using a false premise.
Are Rand Paul, Mike Lee, and Roger Wicker moderates?
You are aware of the statement “extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice”. That is, Paul, Lee, and Wicker might be considered extremist, but nonetheless virtuous. Would you rather have a virtuous senator or a muddling, middling, milk-toast, goes-along, gets-along, pork-barreling, “moderate” senator? For a Democrat, does a Yes vote indicate moderation, or is it an expression of political hackery no more measured than “two legs bad” or “we’ve always been at war with eastasia”.
Since all Democrats voted the same way. We can draw no conclusion as to whether the extent of exclusion in Democrat primaries induces more extreme or more moderate nominees. You are btasing a conclusion on a single vote where it is unclear which senators are moderate or even whether moderation is desirable.
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22 states have each elected two Republican Senators. If your theory was accurate, then these states would have elected similar senators. Since the electorate is the same, the share of moderate-inclined voters would be the same. And if the extent of voter exclusion does induce different results, then within a single state we would expect similar senators. Yet in 7 of the 22 states, the senators split on that particular vote. Something that is wrong 32% of the time is only somewhat better than flipping a coin.
Most senators face one competitive primary. Incumbent senators rarely are defeated in a primary. Only 28 senators have lost a primary since 1962, and only seven of those since 1982. 8 of the 28 incumbents to lose were appointed, running for the first time. Of the 20 previously-elected incumbents who were upset, nine of challengers would go on to lose in November. That is, getting rid of the incumbent may cost your party the seat.
Richard Shelby was first elected as a Democrat. The relevant primary would be the 1986 Democratic primary. Was it “closed” or “open”. Martha McSally was not elected senator. In such a small data set, and with wildly varying circumstances over decades, with a meaningless application of the term “moderate”, any conclusion is untenable.
The terms “open”, “closed”, and “semi-closed” are misleading (is the primary half full or half empty or full of empty rhetoric?). Partisan primaries are exclusionary. Even if an independent is permitted to enter the Democrat diner, or the Republican restaurant, they are still stuck with the same menu choices.
Only in a truly Open Primary such as Louisiana, Washington, or California would a voter have a free choice.
And finally the purpose of an election is to choose public officers NOT to dictate what qualities those officers might have.
Only 3 of 18 senators (16%) first elected before 2010 voted yes.
Only 2 of 25 senators (8%) first elected after 2010 voted yes.
7 of 10 senators (70%) first elected in 2010 voted yes.
Perhaps senators first elected to curb the imperial aspirations of Barack Obama (remember the czars) are unwilling to concede similar authority to Donald Trump.