On April 3, New Mexico Governor Michelle Grisham signed HB 55, the National Popular Vote Plan bill. That makes three states that have joined the pact this year. The others are Colorado and Delaware. There is also some reason to believe that Oregon and Nevada will also pass the bills this year.
Sorry – Even the SCOTUS HACKS will not permit the RED communist statutory fix scheme to subvert Art. 2-1, 12 Amdt and esp 14 Amdt, Secs 1 and 2
— Having votes OUTSIDE of a State determine results INSIDE of a State.
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Divide the USA NOW —
Freedom States, RED communist States, fascist States — all armed to the MAX —
and see which survive.
Gonna be awesome seeing Democrat heads explode when Trump wins the popular vote next year.
Sam Goldstein The national L.P. uses top-down censorship as they try to block new alternatives so to bring 3 to 5 choices to “keep it simple”.
Our team is reverse and we prefer expansion of all who are nominated without pre-judging by the L.P. party bosses.
They want to kick everyone down and snuff them out while our team elects the entire 538-member team simultaneously including unlimited numbers of consecutively ranked POTUS candidates as backups in a team-building and moral-building psychology phenomena which requires inclusion.
We give all 538-member Electors equal time with no attempt to scale back the numbers of POTUS and VP candidates also getting equal treatment.
By sticking to the math we avoid the bias that the insiders bring. That way the self-destructive actions by the LPC’s one-party system might be mitigated if us men try to do a better job.
The United Coalition USA prohibits all single-winner districts with no exceptions so to eliminate the two-party system while the party bosses protect the two-party system while bringing a one-party system.
JB — How about if Trump gets the most 2020 Prez popular votes [even a majority !!!) BUT loses in the gerrymander Electoral College ???
Will he (and his gang extremists) then overthrow the minority rule DEAD USA Const ???
See Hitler in Jan-Mar 1933.
Demo Rep- EVEN AFTER the election he will still be Commander in Chief of the MILITARY so he can do what he WANTS! Pity the poor Democrat that thinks he or she has beaten him!!!!!!!!! Dead, dead, dead-ski to quote Beetlejuice.
The count of electoral votes in states that passed the national popular vote is 189. Oregon and Nevada would bring it to 202. It takes effect at 270.
CL — what day did the USA become a military banana republic ???
4 Mar 1789 – Prez Washington ???
July 1861 – after Battle of Bull Run ???
Apr 1917 – War with kaiser Bill regime ???
7 Dec 1941 – War with Japan ???
June 1950 – UN-declared Korean War ???
noon 20 Jan 2017 – Trump as CIC ???
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Jim- The scheme will only take effect if 5 of 9 SCOTUS hacks say so.
Very good luck with them.
“The count of electoral votes in states that passed the national popular vote is 189. Oregon and Nevada would bring it to 202. It takes effect at 270.”
State ballot initiatives are the next frontier. No legislatures have passed it in Republican-leaning states, only because the recent examples of a popular vote/electoral vote discrepancy favored Republicans (Shrub and Cheeto). However, in 2004 Shrub almost lost the electoral to the Democrats even though he still would have won the popular, so that tilt is not universally true.
Several of those Republican-leaning states have initiative and referendum, and National Popular Vote leads in the polls in all of them, as it does with rank and file Democrats, Republicans and independents alike. Only the Republican leadership stands opposed.
Since Democratic-leaning groups currently favor NPV they have the financial backing to ballot-qualify and campaign for NPV ballot initiatives. They will then pass in enough “red” and “purple” initiative states to bring it above 270 votes.
Will Trump win the popular vote? Conceivably, but so far he has been underwater in popularity the whole time. It’s unlikely the Democrats will mangle their nomination as badly as in 2016, and long term demographic trends are in their favor. They need a better ticket to do a better job of voter turnout than they did in 2016, and 2018 results indicate their base is fired up and more than ready to turn out in 2020.
Assuming the electoral college remains a factor it may actually end up working against Trump, ironically.
In 2016 Clinton famously overextended herself by campaigning in reach goal states in the South and Southwest while failing to cover her rear in the Midwest and Midatlantic. She failed to crack the southern tier, and narrowly lost in three key midwest/midatlantic battleground states sealing her doom. Comey reopening the investigation into her scandals shortly before the election nixed her efforts in that regard.
However, as a long term strategy her move was valid. The southern and southwestern states are becoming more diverse, with more Latino, immigrant and transplanted Northeast/Californian voters. Florida also has an influx of Puerto Ricans who were already US citizens but had no vote in the electoral college, mostly unhappy with Trump; and a felon reinfranchisement which shifts the dynamics in Florida. Democrats such as Beto O’Rourke and Stacey Abrams could potentially flip states like Texas and Georgia. Other states like North Carolina and Arizona could also flip as a result of long term demographic change reaching a tipping point, combined with better turnout than Clinton got based on her condescending, entitled personality, obvious insencerity and lack of empathy with economically insecure voters.
In the event of a legal challenge, it’s pretty obvious that states have an absolute right to allocate their electors in any way they want. It could be state popular vote, vote by district, national popular vote, random lottery, auction – doesn’t matter, it’s entirely up to the state legislature how they want to do it. If they choose to delegate that power to the national popular vote that is well within their rights.
In the event Trump loses and refuses to leave office – he may be commander in chief, but that’s within at least in theory a system of rule of law. If he flouts that law he should not count on the entire chain of command from the top generals to the rank and file supporting him personally over the plain results of the election. It’s more likely that his status as commander in chief will come into play if the election results are in doubt, but even then courts and media alike will have a large role in interpreting those as far as the public and thus the military goes. It’s not outside the realm of possibility that civil war could result with different factions of the military taking different sides.
A 25th amendment solution or impeachment and removal – long overdue, but both highly unlikely. Trump using a national emergency to cancel the election is relatively likelier.
WTF. 14-2 is still round — for Prez electors also.
https://www.nationalpopularvote.com
RED communists at work ??? Duh.