Ranked Choice Voting Initiative is also Circulating in Missouri

Yesterday I posted a story about an Approval Voting initiative petition that is currently circulating in Missouri. Another initiative petition that is circulating is for Ranked Choice Voting that, according to a story on kfvs.com, the link for which is below, would eliminate primaries in Missouri and have all candidates run in the General Election, with the winning candidate elected through RCV.

According to Ballotpedia, at least 107,426 signatures of MO registered voters will need to be collected to place any initiative on the November 2024 ballot. That number could be higher if more highly populated congressional districts are targeted by petitioners.

I also applaud the writer of this story who corrected Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft’s mischaracterization of RCV.

https://www.kfvs12.com/2023/06/13/petition-aims-place-ranked-choice-voting-question-2024-missouri-ballot/


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Ranked Choice Voting Initiative is also Circulating in Missouri — 28 Comments

  1. Name one Communist who got elected by RCV.

    The only partisan elections the Communist Party ever won in the United States were in New York city in 1941, 1943, and 1945, but New York was using proportional representation at the time for city council races.

  2. We discussed this point earlier. The vast majority of communists don’t openly admit that’s their position. At least, not until they gain power formally or get close to that point. Given the history of communist nations and revolutions, it’s not surprising that they tend most often to operate through under handed, surreptitious, and gradual means with the exact same eventual goals and results?

  3. Would it help if we call commies who don’t jump around waving that label or waving the blood red vampire banner with the implements of death coming together beneath their idolatry, but rather prefer to be seen as progressives (towards what?) or liberals, something more short term accurate as far as their single term achievable goals, such as left wing fascist?

    I mean, what else would you call violent antifa and blm stormtroopers and insurrectionists, speech code enforcers, advocates of relentless “progress” towards social and economic nationalization and globalization, et tedious cetera? Left wing fascist – if the jackboot fits, wear it. They don’t seem to have much problem with harmonization with the EW and Red China either. That’s pretty dang fascist, especially when you consider they don’t seem to have much issue with islamofascists or Ukrainian fascists either.

  4. The typical democrats or liberal establishment republicans are communist. If you think or seriously want to claim that only members of the Communist Party are communist, you probably also believe that only people with THUG tattooed on their forehead are thugs. Maybe you think that KKK membership or sympathies are limited to clowns who march around in robes with the faceflap open. Or perhaps that young louts eager to claim their supposed mafia affiliation or ties represent the sum total of the Cosa Nostra or similar criminal organizations. Right?

  5. Shades of Robert Welch, founder of the John Birch Society, who in the 1950’s claimed that President Eisenhower was a Communist.

  6. RCV FATAL ROT FEB 2023

    MIDDLE IS CONFUSED AS USUAL

    34 R—M—L
    33 L—M—R
    16 M—L—R
    16 M—R—L
    99 TOTAL

    WITH RCV, M LOSES.
    R BEATS L 50-49

    HEAD TO HEAD- CONDORCET MATH
    M BEATS R 65-34
    M BEATS L 66-33
    M HAS 99 VOTES IN 1 AND 2 PLACES

    THUS CONDORCET = RCV DONE RIGHT
    WITH APPROVAL VOTING TIEBREAKER

    THUS-RANK CHOICE NUMBERS
    AND YES/NO.

    LEGISLATIVE BODIES-
    PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION

    TOTAL VOTES/TOTAL MEMBERS
    = EQUAL VOTES TO ELECT

    ALL VOTES COUNT.

    MAJORITY RULE AND
    MINORITY REPRESENTATION.

  7. Translation into English: AZ puts the AZ in crAZy, and left wing fascist scum want to progressively move to fascism and then communism.

  8. HOW MANY COMMIES ELECTED IN RCV VERMONT ??? ESP IN BURLINGTON, VT

    COMMIE/FASCIST = STATIST — A CONTROL FREAK TYRANT.

    IS TRUMP A CLASSIC CONTROL FREAK TYRANT ??? DUH.

  9. Is anyone elected in Vermont these days not a commie? Duh.

    Is Trump a tyrant? No. Tyrants don’t leave office so easily as he did, especially when they get cheated out of another term they actually won. What did he do in office to support the claim that he’s a tyrant, much less anything like Hitler? Especially compared to say, Obama and Biden. Name the top five things that made him a tyrant in league with Hitler?

  10. RWP-

    TRUMP LEFT OFFICE ONLY AFTER THE DC COPS RETREATED, RALLIED AND COUNTER-ATTACKED / SMASHED THE TRUMP GANGSTERS WHO INVADED THE CAPITOL BLDG ON 6 JAN 2021.

    HOW MANY TRUMP GANGSTERS IN JAIL / WAITING TRIAL ???

    SEE EARLIER MUSSOLINI MARCH ON ROME IN 1922 – OVERTHROW OF ITALY REGIME.
    MODEL FOR HITLER IN 1923 MUNICH REVOLT.
    MORONS IN UK AND FRANCE DID ZERO IN BOTH CASES.

    MULTIPLE KILLINGS OF ANTI-WAR FOLKS IN JAPAN IN 1926-1941.

    RESULT – WW II IN 1939-1945– ABOUT 80,000,000 DEAD – EUROPE AND ASIA

    M AND H – DEAD TYRANTS IN APR 1945.
    VARIOUS SUICIDES OF THEIR HACKS.

  11. AZ is so fucking delusional it’s not even funny anymore. His reliance on fake news is pathetic.

  12. Mussolini led the march on Rome. Hitler led the beer hall putsch. Trump did not lead any rioters on J6. He have a completely legal speech at a legal rally. There’s no evidence at all that Trump ordered, approved, coordinated with, or had anything to do with a few supporters and false flag opponents who went overboard. On the contrary, he told his supporters to protest the election theft legally and peacefully.

    Nothing in your rant was a single thing Trump did. You mentioned things Hitler, Mussolini, and Japanese fascists did. You mentioned a very exaggerated account of what a few Trump supporters who got carried away and ignored his call to protest strongly but peacefully and legally, plus antifa scum disguised as Trump supporters to make them look bad, did. But nothing at all about what Trump himself did, ordered or asked anyone to do, or had any control over.

    Even if Trump had approved J6 rioting, which there is zero evidence for, that would make him like hundreds of other dictators or would be dictators in the decades since. He’d have to do a lot more than that to rise to the level of Mussolini, much less Hitler. AZ has no facts, no logic, and no argument.

    I asked for five things Trump did that AZ claims made him a tyrant. He replied with zero things Trump did. There were American Presidents who invaded and occupied countries, had opposition leaders arrested, started wars that killed a lot of people, and did a lot of things that came a lot closer to tyranny than anything Trump ever did.

    If AZ had anything at all to offer to show that Trump was, is, or will be a tyrant, he would have posted it by now. He has not done anything of the sort. Just insinuations, lies, and irrelevant ranting about how bad Hitler, Mussolini, and WWII era Japanese leaders were. No one said they weren’t bad, at least that I saw. That doesn’t do anything to show Trump to be anything like them.

    AZ does not know what logic, facts, evidence, or an argument even are. No wonder his pro se legal cases were laughed out of court. They probably involved equally bad legal arguments.

  13. I agree with my fellow Pats. AZ is an illogical, clueless, ban resident preschool troll moron. He would not know facts or logic if they smacked him upside the head.

  14. HAS RWP BEEN IN CONTINUOUS CONTACT WITH TRUMP 24/7/365 TO RECORD ALL OF TRUMP’S DIRECT/INDIRECT CONTACTS WITH THE 6 JAN 2021 GANGSTERS ???

    ESP VIA TRUMP INDIRECT AGENTS/HACKS- HIS RELATIVES, TRUMP SO-CALLED LAWYERS, RNC HACKS, CONGRESS HACKS, CONGRESS STAFF HACKS, ETC. ???

    ESP KNOWS WHAT INFO HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO ALL USA GRAND JURIES ABOUT EVENTS BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER THE 6 JAN 2021 ATTACK/INVASION OF THE CAPITOL ???

  15. Of course not. The burden of proof is on you if you want to claim Trump is a tyrant. Especially one like the leaders of the Axis Powers. You present no proof, no evidence, and want me to disprove your lack of evidence? No wonder you got laughed out of court.

  16. Has AZ been in continuous contact with Biden and Xi? Can he prove they did not collude to steal the election? Or to sell out USA to red China?

  17. AZ-

    PART OF THE BALLOT STUFFING IN DETROIT FOR BIDEN?

    CURIOUS MINDS WANT TO KNOW

    B-O-B

  18. ZERO TO DO WITH 2020 STUFF IN DETROIT.

    UNKNOWN HOW MANY FIRST TIME VOTERS IN DETROIT IN 2020 AMONG ITS MANY EMPTY BLDGS AND VACANT LOTS

    DUE TO COMMIE LOOTER GOVTS AND CRIME GANGS SINCE 1961 —

    POP DOWN ABOUT 70 (REPEAT 70) PCT SINCE 1953 — HEADED TO ZERO BY 2050.

    SEE MANY OLDE MIDDLE EAST RUINS.

  19. So, Jeffrey Clark and some other conservatives may be considering that since the left politicizes federal law enforcement and prosecution, maybe next time what’s good for the goose will be good for the gander? I mean, it’s either wrong when either side does it, or ok for both. Otherwise you’re just a shill.

    My understanding was that AZ was hiding like Biden in the basement in 2020, and may still be there now. I doubt he got out to stuff or harvest ballots. He probably wanted to though. He clearly favors the left.

  20. ZERO DIFFERENCES BETWEEN COMMIES AND FASCISTS —

    BOTH CONTROL FREAK GANGSTERS – BOTH KILLERS, BOTH SLAVERS, BOTH STATISTS WITH THEIR STATISM, DEATH AND DESTRUCTION, BOTH WITH THEIR MONARCH/OLIGARCH TYRANTS.
    —-
    P-A-T

  21. Communists and fascists are both leftists. Biden is closer to being either of those by far than Trump. Biden is closer to fascist than communist, but in practice they’re basically the same thing. Communists are slightly more extreme left than fascists, and thus slightly worse.

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