The Ohio Libertarian Party began its 2024 presidential independent petition on August 8. It is likely the party got between 6% and 8% of all the signatures it will need, in just a single day. Petitioning at the polls is an excellent petition technique. The stand-in presidential candidate listed on the petition is Tricia Sprankle; the vice-presidential stand-in is Ken Moellman.
Best wishes to the Ohio Libertarian Party on its ballot drive. We need an alternative to Biden and Trump.
You misspelled Ken’s last name. It is Moellman.
Some states make petition circulators stand so far away from polling places that it makes all or most of the polling places in these states unworkable for petition signature gathering.
Lawsuits ought to be filed over this.
The libertarians should just conominate Trump. He’s more libertarian than anyone they ran since Ron Paul.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/watch-u-s-marine-who-lost-arm-in-bidens-afghan-withdrawal-describes-insane-meeting-with-lyin-joe/
What Biden really thinks about the military.
Trump is even better than Ron Paul.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/america-last-bidens-billions-for-ukraine-could-have-built-a-wall-two-times-across-u-s-mexico-border/
We could have built the wall.
We could have built a wall with Mexico and another one around the DC beltway.
Good luck to the Libertarians. Let’s hope they get another candidate in 2024 who can cover the vote spread in the swing states, and be a triple play spoiler.
IMO, Chase Oliver would be a good Presidential candidate for the Libertarians. He knows how to play the spoiler role.
Chase Oliver is a fake libertarian, communist and a joke. The LP needs an actual libertarian to run.
Chase Oliver belongs in the Green or Communist parry. He’s not a libertarian.
Since Walter doesn’t care about principle, why not nominate Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton? They would be spoilers too.
If Chase is perceived as leftist, that could only help the Republicans.
But, I think he is more complicated than that, which makes him an excellent spoiler.
People will be puzzling over from which party he is drawing votes.
Any libertarian is more principled than any Republican or Democrat. The ideology of both major parties is inconsistent.
Ballot access petitioning is an exercise in compliance with fascism. All ballot access quotas are unconstitutional and a violation basic human nature – the ability to choose. Also candidate fees to appear on the ballot serve as censorship and unconstitutional licensing of candidates to stifle voter freedom to choose. Ds and Rs both enacted fascist election regulations to entrench themselves in power.
The alternative to fake fascist elections is the write-in only voter verifiable ballot which restores the power voters had before the the 1880s secret ballot coup d’ etat. Stop sucking up to fascists.
An even better alternative is standing count voting.
Chase Oliver is clearly a leftist. There’s zero mystery there. The libertarians should conominate Trump, who is more libertarian than Jorgensen, Johnson, or Barr, and more libertarian than any other US President since Andrew Jackson.
My opinion would be for the LP to focus on the heavily R and D states and take advantage of the district system used in Nebraska and Maine. In swing states, let voters decide on their own.
What do the Ohio Libertarians need to get party ballot access in Ohio, and are they trying that as well?
The only way to get the party label on the Ohio ballot is to do the party petition, which requires 40,345 signatures. However, if the US Supreme Court takes the Mazo v Way case from New Jersey, over labels on ballots, and reverses the 3rd circuit, it might be possible to force Ohio in the future to allow appropriate partisan labels for candidates who use the independent procedure.
5000 signatures vs 40+k, pretty obvious why they would go with the first one. Independent label would probably get them more votes too. If candidates want to run for other office they should do their own petition. That might force them to run for local office rather than statewide or federal, or not run at all if they don’t have enough resources and supporters to petition successfully as independents. Both of those would be good things, because candidates should run for the most winnable office possible and not run at all if they are so bereft of money, time, friends and supporters that they can’t even manage a petition drive.
Tom, the only problem with your statement / link is the notion that Biden still thinks anything at all. He clearly has severe senile dementia that’s rapidly getting worse. He “thinks” whatever his handlers tell him to think, unless it’s that he wants to grope someone, sniff hair, and things of that nature. His handlers are leftist demon rats, which as a species have been anti military since Vietnam. Biden himself was of age to serve during that time, and didn’t. His handlers anti military views are probably in line with what his views were when he still had views. If I had to guess, it’s that those who serve do so because they’re too naive or incompetent to get out of it.
It may at first seem paradoxical that people who are so anti military are so pro war, but it’s not. They consider themselves a higher and better class of people than those who served or have kids or grandkids who are likely to serve. Of course few of them will say that publicly, but I know some people who think like that, and I think that’s a prevalent opinion among the well off left leaning set. People who served and have family serving now don’t want to get into foreign conflicts where US national security is not at stake because the costs of war are not just theoretical or borne by “other people” who are “not like them.” By contrast, the now elderly and well off vietnam era draft dodgers who never matured emotionally and their intellectual heirs see those who serve as expendable if they even think about them at all. It’s more likely they think solely about virtue signaling, or perhaps their stock portfolio.
I’ll bet Biden’s now dead son joined the military against his dad’s advice. Shameful that his dad would now lie about him dying in combat rather than from cancer, but it’s what you would expect from a thoroughly corrupt and depraved bottom feeding rat like Biden, even before he became senile.
“My opinion would be for the LP to focus on the heavily R and D states and take advantage of the district system used in Nebraska and Maine. In swing states, let voters decide on their own.”
In the swing states is where third party candidates get the most leverage in a Presidential election. It’s a good way to demonstrate the weakness of plurality voting in a multi candidate election.
They should probably stop running presidential candidates, and concentrate on offices they actually have a track record of winning or coming close to winning. They would probably also do better running those candidates as independents, functioning more as an endorsement committee or Pac or something like that.
How about just nominating Trump?
Donald Trump is more libertarian than Chase Oliver.
“The libertarians should conominate Trump, who is more libertarian than Jorgensen”
In 2020, over 2,000,000 voters thought otherwise.
How many would have voted libertarian if not for Trump? Jorgensen is a Marxist and that cost her votes.
Walter Ziobro – 2 million voters were wrong.
Dale – it didn’t cost her as many bored as it should have because the number of people aware of that was miniscule compared to the number who knew nothing about her except that she was allegedly “libertarian.” To most people that means people like Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Thomas Massie, Neal Boortz, and Glenn Beck. The number of voters who know the ins and outs of this or that l.p. candidates are probably less than 1% of voters, and that includes people who would never give any of them the time of day .